SPECULATION Luke conceding to train Rey as a Jedi.

If Jedi aren't "the good guys" there is no Star Wars.

 

I think what Luke meant when he said the Jedi must end is, the Sith are gone the old way of thinking will not defeat the KOR. The Jedi were flawed, there must be a new way of thinking.

 

I'm 99% wrong, but I'd love if he doesn't for almost all the movie.
I'd love, in fact, if the actual training will start only and the end of movie, because something that happens meanwhile convince him to do it.

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The only chance to have a plot like this, is that the rumored scene on Ahch to with Kylo is just a vision and not an actual event.
And that, the vision - an other things that may happen on the island - can lead him first to reach his sister or just to move from there, perhaps because he fears that Kylo will reach the island, and then the movie goes on untill he realizes that Rey has to be trained. That could also explain why she changes clothes and when... just in the end, when they're back on Ahch to, she's officially a "padawan"and them both are the last jedi

Just a wish.

 

Luke's shining moment in the OT was throwing his sabre down and declaring himself a Jedi. If the Jedi are flawed or worse somehow twisted. It breaks the entire saga. Yoda and Obi-Wan become deranged or evil cult leaders and the OT's hero journey is a tragedy.

You can add to the Jedi but you can't take away with out burning down the legacy of 6 films. Rey doesn't need to see herself as a Jedi as long as the audience sees her as the successor of the Jedi she will be one.

 

Eventually he trains her. Yes. But I remember something Mark Hamill said"Just because you see Rey training doesn't mean Luke is training her."

 

Like some other posters have alluded to, I think this is a misinterpretation of Luke's "It's time for the Jedi to end" statement. I think he sees that light-side only and dark-side only Force users will continue to keep the Force out of balance. I think he sees "central" Force users like the Grey Jedi as the solution. Although I don't think the LSG will use the "Grey Jedi" title.

 

Ya know, I had not realized it, but you can't tell who is training Rey in the trailer! While I think this is a red herring, it is interesting to think about. What if it is really Kylo training Rey?

Nah, I'm sure it is Luke.

 

The galaxy already has amoral relativists. They are called Sith.

 

It's going to be an odd relationship, to say the least...

 

Who knows? Would be a crazy thing. At this time I'm not sure about anything yet.

 

To me at first, it looked like a silhouette of someone in a robe watching down on Rey in the trailer. But since we have yet to see the occupants of Ach-To, it could be one of them. Even if they are bird like creatures, those stone huts are pretty big for your average size birds.

 

I think at first Luke will be angry that Rey is there, she will tell him that Leia and the Resistance needs him and the Jedi. He will absolutely refuse to train Rey as a Jedi at first, telling her the Jedi must end, the conflict must end, etc., then after persistence, Luke will cave and train her.

 

I completely agree that if you remove the Jedi you fundamentally change Star Wars into something else. I'm OK with Luke evolving how we think of the Jedi (or better yet bringing them back to an older more original way of being), but for me, the must be there.

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I think they can find a middle ground where Luke can identify flaws in the way the PT Jedi behaved without making Yoda and Obi Wan deranged, evil cult leaders. They can be portrayed as well intentioned good people who took a philosophy to such an extreme that it caused harm they never intended.

 

If we get force ghosts, I think this is where they'd appear IMO.

 

I thought MH confirmed that it's Luke but didn't confirm that he was actually training Rey in that scene.

 

The most likely thing is that Luke has become entirely disillusioned. He spend most of his life trying to rebuild the Jedi order after his father was redeemed. The end of the Sith was supposed to restore balance. 25 years later his nephew turns, what he's build is destroyed, and even worse his nephew killed his life long friend. After everything Luke has been through it seems natural that he no longer feels like rebuilding the Jedi is something he wants. However, this story will be about Luke/Rey learning together.

We're not gonna get some "light/dark" keep the force out of balance gray BS. The Jedi existed for thousands of years before the dark times. As Lor San Tekka said "Without the Jedi, there can be no balance in the Force." The continuation of the Jedi is essential to the story. Snoke's motivation for finding Luke is to prevent the Jedi from rising.

Luke has only been missing for 2-5 years.

 

I'll take the huge odd and say Yoda will train Rey.