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SPOILER Major character deaths in the sequel trilogy

Discussion in 'Star Wars: The Force Awakens' started by Grand Admiral Kraum, Jul 30, 2015.

  1. Grand Admiral Kraum

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    Many fans now assume that Han Solo will die in episode 7, but what about Luke? Leia? Admiral Ackbar? Lando? There are many other major characters who could bite the dust, including the droids.. but the real question is when?

    There's a lot of fans who think Luke will be killed in episode 8, but I think this would be way too dark following the allegedly violent death of Han in episode 7.. and a surefire way to annoy the fans.

    I believe Luke will either sacrifice himself for the greater good in episode 9, or survive the trilogy and die of old age in the next. In fact I believe Luke and Leia have an almost equal chance of being killed off at some point in this trilogy.. but two of the big three dying in the sequel trilogy? That just doesn't feel right to me.
     
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    Hi again, I agree that someone must die in the saga. I do however believe that Luke will live up until the end of episode 9, Luke having anything to do with Han's death; accidental or otherwise would be way off base for the character Lucas created. I am all for Luke dying but it most be in a way that honor's a character with his chosen abilities in the force. Leia dying would be ok but I too like her character, so hopefully they are wise in their choices.
     
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    Luke won't die in TFA hence that Hamill has regrown his jedi beard, and I don't think its a reshot either because they're in the editing process and perhaps even done that now. However I do think its possible Leia will die too along with Han.
     
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    Han = VII
    Leia = VIII
    Luke/Finn/Kylo = IX

    Rey becomes the obi-wan for X-XI-XII
     
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    I agree. Han will most likely die, either in TFA or VIII, but killing off Luke and/or Leia would be tremendous overkill. I'd like Luke to die off-screen between the events of IX and X (assuming we get the second sequel trilogy), and maybe have Leia pass in a small but meaningful moment in the next trilogy. We don't need big death scenes for all three.
     
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    I think they could even give Leia a happily-ever-after ending at the end of this trilogy, and just leave it up to the audiences' imagination what happens to her.
     
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    Ya..hmmmm....gonna have to...a.....go ahead....and ummmm......disagree with you.... (no rating)..........
    Luke will HAVE TO go Kenobi style, or in an extreme Vader style.
    Maybe unoriginal, BUT.......
    Search your feelings!
    You know this to be true.
     
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    If Han wasn't supposed to go out in similar way, I'd agree with you. But I'd like each of the Big Three to go out in unique ways. Han goes out like a hero (Kenobi style), Leia either passes from old age or just gets an ending to her story, and Luke is triumphant in one film and dead (possibly a Force ghost) in the next.

    I'm basing Luke's demise off of the Legacy comics, where we jump ahead 100 years and never really know how he died, just that he did. He still appears as a Force ghost, but the cause of his death was never relevant to the plot.

    Would I like to see Luke go out like a badass? Sure, the fanboy in me would love it. But it would seem redundant if he and Han die in similar ways, especially back-to-back. If the ST ends with a resurgent Jedi Order, with Luke at the head, I'd be okay if the SST starts 10-20 years later and Luke has already passed.
     
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    If the rumors are true, and the Star Wars universe continues to have many mirrors of itself in characters/events/scenes, here's my reverse engineering of it:
    • VII: Han appears to be the unlikely Obiwan of this film, and dies to protect the hero's / help them win.
    • VIII: secondary characters die, I'll bet Lando comes back and potentially dies too. Luke is the ST Yoda, and lives to help train the others. Some sort of stand off between Luke and the big bad, is unresolved. (Like Yoda vs Dooku). Leia is either a Shimi mirror, gets captured and dies when Rey finds her... Or is military brass, stay out of the fray. I can't see her meeting an alderannian end... Too easy.
    • IX: clouded this one is. If they have established the new characters as the heros and they are credible Force wielders / adventurers... I can see Luke surviving to the end, but somehow is side lined / out of the picture as the heros win. And the big bads are the ones that die.
    • Leia is a crap shoot still... If she lives past VIII... There's a part of me that believes Leia must be shown to use the Force more than she has, and /or potentially be a Vader mirror (cunning warrior, skilled in military strategy, does questionable things in a time of war).. I secretly want her to be a hidden Jedi, and stand up to defend Rey in a big confrontation. Besides that being awesome, that would potentially push Rey into revenge vs. Justice situation, like Luke/Anakin, with the outcome being Rey choosing the light side. (Disney wouldn't give up the character)
     
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    Ackbar is kind of in Chewbacca-territory for me, in that he died in the EU and is back now; much like Chewbacca, I was pretty satisfied with his death. He died of old-age, but was a fantastic military-mind to the end and the heroes won the day at the end of that novel because of a strategy he devised before passing. I don't think they can really top that, so if he dies it'll probably be kind of generic: the ship he's on blows up, and he ends up being the face of the "cost of war" for the audience.
     
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    LOVE your posts!
    Coming back at you.....I was just referring to Luke. I get some to half of the EU posts.
    I am a (mostly) cinema fan as far as Star Wars is concerned(get condemned for it frequently).
    So many posters get caught up in the EU.
    I realized(after lurking for months) that this conversation should revolve around film only. (I still have my favorite book series I would prefer ((((which I hope the films take from))))).......
    I just try and keep my Lobot fantasies aside (mostly) to try and stay on a true cinematic path. I'm by no means an expert (as I consider other posters to be). Just look at all the actors and producers quotes. The EU is yet so far demolished (SAD). I've been watching the O6(DON'T HATE!) over and over....just to try and keep context. I have so many brothers and sisters on other sites who love the EU, just spun with some of MY previously favorite ideas, hellbent on things going the EU way. I get it....and I don't want another DISNEY/MARVEL universe/galaxy far..far..away. ...BUT......IMHO........we will likely benefit from accepting a new film cannon and embracing the new media, as I'm sure (not singling you out) it will blow us away. Most previous attempts have, or we would not be here (excluding trolls).
    Back to the point.......Luke's death WILL ryme(I sound like a DP smack addict). Any debate contrary is more than welcome in my nightmares. @Luuke22 ....love your posts! This site would be devoid without you.
     
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    I think Luke will die by Kylo's blade in Episode 9 giving Leia his lightsaber, Han & Chewie will die in a space battle with Captain Phasma, Leia will avenge Luke by injuring Kylo before passing Luke's lightsaber to Rey to finish the job, Lando will take Finn under his wing after this.
     
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    I'm flattered!

    As far as the EU goes, I know it's gone and I've accepted it. However, I think we need to keep in mind what has happened in past Star Wars literature, as I know that the LSG does. Chewbacca is a great example: the fanbase was outraged at his death back in 1999, but we came to accept it. When they announced he would be returning for the ST, we all rejoiced! Killing him off again would be a slap-in-the-face to the fans, so I think he'll survive the ST.

    As for Luke's demise, I may have mirrored my thought s based on the Legacy comics, but my theory is largely based on the films, namely the rumor of how Han dies in TFA. Han dying, while tragic, makes sense from both within the story and from a production standpoint: it would complete his arc, from selfish rouge to sacrificial hero, and I don't think Harrision Ford could do many more SW films even if he wanted to (regardless of his age, the man broke his leg and crashed a plane all within a year; he's gotta be a nightmare for his insurance company, lol). Luke, on the other hand, can easily take on the "passive-Yoda" role without the need to die; if he does die on screen, I predict it would happen very early in Episode X. Leia is kind of the wildcard, which is why I think she could conceivably live to die of old-age or resolve her arc and never be heard from again.
     
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    Personally, I think Luke Survives all of the ST, but Luke stays as more of a wizard and teacher than warrior. I think Han is the only one who dies of the big 3. Really it's the only one that I feel like could move the story forward by death. Luke's death probably wouldn't be permanent, he would just become a force ghost which has been done a lot in Star Wars. So I don't see his death being needed. Leia will be in a senator / advisor role at some point in the ST so I feel like there's no reason she would need to die. They could just use her as a cameo every so often.
     
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    Han, Nien Numb, and Ackbar - TFA

    Luke - Ep 9

    Leia is probably safe.
     
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    Han will die, being killed by either Kylo Ren or Luke himself in TFA. Luke will survive until IX, in which he dies of old age like Yoda. Leia I'm not sure, but she may die in VIII. Maybe one OT character death per film?
     
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    I'll throw my two cents in.

    Chewie dies in VII
    Han dies at the end of VIII
    Luke dies in IX, Leia and the droids survive.

    Here's a thought, perhaps at the very end of IX R2 is destroyed. This is the one way we know the original Star Wars story of the Skywalker family is done.

    Other minor characters will die along the way.
     
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    I am working under the assumption that the ST completes the Skywalker saga and all of he bad guys get theirs. At least one major baddie will go in VII and Snoke's death will wrap up IX.

    The new big three will survive.

    I have come to accept that Han will go, but what to do about Luke and Leia? My sense is that their cinematic fate will be tied to which character is the child of whom?

    I don't have an answer to this one, but I feel like the ST has to explore Leia's abilities in the Force.

    And...I'm going to go out on a limb and say that 3PO and R2 don't make it out of IX.
     
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    No way. Maybe Threepio will perish, but R2 is invincible.
     
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    My first day on this forum some guy posted that it was "obvious" that one major OT characters dies in each film, with Luke falling last in Episode IX and each one "featuring" the OT's epic conclusion...

    Han dies for his daughter
    Leia dies for her son
    Luke passes on his wisdom to both their son and daughter but sacrifices himself at a key moment to guide them and join Ben and Yoda and his father.

    I think however you could see that switched up:

    Han dies for his daughter.
    Luke dies a sacrificial death to aid Rey in the afterlife and to keep his promise not to destroy Kylo. (see OB1 Episode IV)
    Leia dies after seeing Kylo redeemed

    Silly conjecture of course, but there it is.

    I think more likely Harrison has a very busy schedule coming with Blade Runner and allegedly two more Indiana Jones films, and given Larry and Harrison's feelings about how Han should have died in Return of the Jedi, we're going to get an epic, tearful death to a great hero.

    I think Luke and Leia will survive the next trilogy if only because even their smallest inclusion in a film or series can give it such gravitas and assured interest and revenue.

    My guess is Episode VII is a mystery box that provides Han Solo a graceful, cinematic exit. It will be clear Han Solo saved everyone on Yavin IV, in a last ditch, had to succeed effort that cost him his life. The irony of VII is Han begins the film as a scoundrel and a pirate again, but makes it abundantly clear he cares very deeply about his friends and family. That's the heart of Han Solo. It's a very American kind of hero, not in a patriotic way, but in the way the "best" of America has the sense of rugged individualism that goes back to Tom Sawyer and most certainly every John Huston film ever made.

    To me, to make Han's death meaningful you have to reveal that Rey and Han are related (and possibly Kylo is related as well). When we see the reason Harrison won't fire, he won't kill someone he knows still has good in him...and knows that he can lure Kylo away to save the others...then Rey sees what Han does for her and finally learns what family truly means...

    Yavin is saved from total destruction the final remnants of the Empire are truly extinguished. The last war ends where the first war began, (just like our own Civil War by the way).

    The war was costly, but at long last it is finally over.

    ...yeah I'm pretty sure that's what we're going to get. I'd say 60 to 70% chance that's how Episode VII goes down.

    In the process you may have to swallow:

    ...a very wonky plot involving a light saber and three, count them three ridiculous super weapons.
     
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