SPOILER Major character deaths in the sequel trilogy

Luke surviving to old age thats to much eu for me, I'd prefer him to go out with a Chewie one last run in the Millennium falcon as for Leia she will be killed by Kylo unless she rams the star cruiser she is in into a star destroyer or into the mountain base etc.

 

Here's a different point of view.... ....

Why not Luke learn or meditate on becoming one with the living force then, wait for it... Never die!
He might reverse DP's bold long term plan then be a Highlander type being. He will transcend his flesh-body then be pure force energy.
I keep advising younger Star Wars fans and new forum members to view the 1982 fantasy classic; The Dark Crystal.
It could play out that Luke overcomes his fears, with the guidance of force ghost Yoda(Frank Oz cameo) then he aides Finn, Rey, Chewbacca.
Han Solo might die but his death will be heroic, .
This concept is solid and even if the ST story arc doesn't follow it, I think it'd be a decent story.

 

No one can be redeemed after killing the most popular character in the Star Wars history. If Kylo kills Han, he cannot be redeemed. I am not so positive that Vader should be redeemed given he murdered a school full of little kids. If you think about the sheer horror of that act, not a lot of people would be waiving the forgiveness flag at him. I think its great that Luke never gave up on him, but you get my point.

 

Didn't Vader kill hundreds of babies and then find redemption in his last act? Isn't that kind of the point of Star Wars, to mirror that spiritual idea that we can redeem our sins by sacrifice and love of family?

I don't know, maybe I have the entire premise of the original trilogy wrong.

 

I for one don't see Kylo as a major character or significant.
I think he will be like the Belloq character in the hit film; Raiders of the Lost Ark.
Ren will be wealthy, conflicted but in the end evil then killed by his own ineptness or lust.
When I heard Kasdan would be a screenwriter then I read that JJ and Kasdan completely went against the first TFA draft(plot), I realized that Kylo Ren would be cast in the Rene Belloq light...

Star Wars characters that won't be huge parts of the ST; Hux(General), Plasma, Kylo Ren, maybe Maz.

 

Or maybe Luke extends his life so long that his appearance changes: he shrinks, his skin becomes wrinkly and discolored (almost green, you might say), his ears protrube and his hands/feet begin fusing together while the nails grow into each other to become almost like talons. Luke becomes Yoda! . "When 900 years old you reach, look as good you will not. Hmmph!"

"Dad, I forgive you."
"Luke, I once murdered hundreds of children in the name of Sith supremacy."
"Umm, I might have rethought the whole forgiveness thing..."

 

Plot Twist: Luke's already dead before Episode VII -- and therefore doesn't die in the film.

 

This is not a going to be Game of Thrones. You get maybe one or two main character deaths. I imagine Han will die in 7 and a Luke may die in 9 (highly doubt it). I hope after this trilogy they pull a Star Trek Next Generation and jump forward about 50 years in time. Start fresh again. Mention that Luke and Leia are dead . Have a monument built to the old heroes and let that be the end of it. May be in 10 or 15 years when Ridley and Boyega get older you can do another trilogy with them. That is the only way to do if you ask me.

 

The problem with keeping Luke around is the issue of any situation getting out of hand- just have Luke solve it. He would be a shackle on our next generation of heroes preventing them from developing in their own light.

Perhaps that is why they chose to leave Luke out of the majority of Episode VII, you can't have a magic space wizard come and save the day all the time, that's lazy storytelling. For example Lord of the Rings had to kill Gandalf off for a time because he was the most powerful (and wisest) part of the Fellowship and the characters needed his absence to come into their own. By the time Gandalf is brought back it's too late for him to rush in and save the day and even then he is an OP Wild Card the heroes use to finagle their way out of hopeless situations.

Leaving him out of VII allows a spotlight and character growth for the actual heroes of the ST. Luke can't be there, JJ or Rian will give us a fantastic demonstration of Luke's power but then something HAS to happen to take him out of the picture. Honestly Luke dying in Episode VIII would be as powerful as say Han dying in Episode VII would be. It could occur during Rey's breaking moment like how Anakin lost his hand and sense of invulnerability in II, and Luke lost his hand and discovered Vader was his father in V

 

No. It would never happen. 3PO and R2 are probably the only untouchable characters. They are money in the bank that keeps gaining interest. They will be around in one form or another until Ep328. They will survive until the end of Star Wars. They are Star wars.

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I can see Kylo dying, and maybe Hux revealing himself to be Sith at the end, delivering a report to Snoke on current events.

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Have you read the books, Lord of the Rings? That's not exactly how I would interpret Gandalf's exit/return, but that's a debate for another time. Why would Luke just come and 'solve it?' Why would he be a 'shackle?' If anything he'd be an Obiwan type, especially to new viewers. Why is it everyone pictures Luke as being a Jedi times 10 super hero? I have a suspicion he will be no more powerful than he was in ROTJ, just full of wisdom from years of aging.

 

Yes I have, honestly I prefer the films though. I have the same issue with Game of Thrones, but usually I prefer the book because it can tell a lot more about the story. I've had an easier time writing prose vs writing a screenplay because the writing never comes out how I want it, I'm better directing in that case.

Anyway in regards to Luke I keep thinking back to the Silver Ranger from Power Rangers in Space who was obviously the most powerful ranger but was unable to fight for long periods of time. This was to give us our powerful "6th ranger character" but prevent him from being too much of a crutch to turn to "oh we can't beat him let's just send the Silver Ranger after him." A game I love to play is Battle for Wesnoth and in the Heir to the Throne campaign you are given an obscenely powerful Mage who can crush anyone in the early scenarios, but if you use him too much you will get crushed in the later scenarios because none of your soldiers were able to level up since the Mage got all the kills.

It's like the whole superhero question "why call anyone else when Superman has the power to do anything" so there has to be some way to keep Superman either depowered or out of the picture.

Obi-wan had to die because he was a crutch (as our most mentor characters) he was basically single handedly responsible for the escape from the Death Star. He would've been able to shelter and protect Luke but that doesn't make for good drama so he had to die so Luke could learn to survive on his own.

I've never been a fan of uber-Jedi Luke because I don't think it makes sense. I believe Anakin was a far more powerful force user but he lacked the spirit of the Jedi that resided in Luke. Anakin wasn't a natural Jedi like Luke was, but Luke isn't the natural force user that Anakin was. But he is still one of if not the most powerful force user in the galaxy since he's the only one with any sort of formal training (that we know of). They have to explain a reason Luke just can't solve any issue when it shows up and killing him is a good way of doing it. A peaceful retirement isn't the Skywalker way

 

Speaking from the force, I like it that might explain the faint echoes in his voice during the second trailer.

 

I keep harping on that doubled voice-over from the 2nd trailer. I think that is our biggest hint so far and it hasn't been discussed nearly as much as some unfounded rumors have. They knew they wanted to use that particular voice over from ROTJ. They could easily take it directly from the source, which they did, and have it be what we hear in the teaser. For some reason, they decide to have Mark re-record it. According to Mark's interview at celebration it was going to either be one or the other they used; the old one or the new one he was recording. He explained it away by saying that JJ liked to 'play around with things.' Ok, fine...but why have Mark record it in a completely different voice? It's deeper, gravely, etc. In that same celebration interview he said the lines exactly as he sounded 30 years ago so his new version sounded different deliberately. I think balance won't be restored until there is 1 dark and 1 light and Luke decides to train Ren under the guise of Snoke...mabye...but probably not...but maybe!

 

Force Ghost Luke?

https://thecantina.starwars7news.com/index.php?threads/could-it-be-force-ghost-luke.1303/

 

Sorry I thought it was the dead talking through the force..

 

Luke already being dead in the 2nd/3rd act of TFA is possible. It would be kinda cool if he was a force ghost in the Vietnam cave scene. But IMO, he might talk briefly to Yoda either before or after a pivotal scene with Rey, Finn, Poe and/or Han.

 

Leia's a Disney princess now. Her story will end with her marrying a street urchin, becoming head of the New Republic and being paraded through the streets of Coruscant on a big, velvet cushion..lol!....

 

Liea will evatually go, to motivate Luke to finally grasp his leadership role.

Kylo, I see more as the bad guy turning to the good side to re-establish redemption is possible within the force.

Ackbar's role will be too small to kill off.

More stormtroopers will however die...