1. Due to the increased amount of spam bots on the forum, we are strengthening our defenses. You may experience a CAPTCHA challenge from time to time.
    Dismiss Notice
  2. Notification emails are working properly again. Please check your email spam folder and if you see any emails from the Cantina there, make sure to mark them as "Not Spam". This will help a lot to whitelist the emails and to stop them going to spam.
    Dismiss Notice
  3. IMPORTANT! To be able to create new threads and rate posts, you need to have at least 30 posts in The Cantina.
    Dismiss Notice
  4. Before posting a new thread, check the list with similar threads that will appear when you start typing the thread's title.
    Dismiss Notice

SPECULATION Mara Jade in New-Canon discussion thread

Discussion in 'Star Wars: Legends' started by Angelman, Jun 19, 2023.

?

What do you think about reintroducing Mara Jade in canon/live action?

  1. Yes please! – That would totally make my day!

    5 vote(s)
    41.7%
  2. Interesting – Mara Jade is a character with lots of potential

    2 vote(s)
    16.7%
  3. *shrug* – I have no strong feelings on Mara Jade either way

    1 vote(s)
    8.3%
  4. Meh – I guess Mara Jade might possibly work with some rewrites

    2 vote(s)
    16.7%
  5. Blarg! – Mara Jade is a terrible character…

    2 vote(s)
    16.7%
  1. Angelman

    Angelman Servant of the Whills -- Slave to the Muses
    1030th Grand Admiral ***** (Mod)

    Joined:
    Dec 2, 2014
    Posts:
    3,567
    Likes Received:
    40,395
    Trophy Points:
    161,967
    Credits:
    20,815
    Ratings:
    +44,537 / 76 / -20
    Hey, all!

    In another thread, @The dinh had the good idea of doing a poll regarding Mara Jade.
    This was due to a (perhaps surprising) range of feelings towards the character that were voiced in that thread.
    So, here we are. Have fun but remember to be nice and cool, yeh? :)

    Mara_Jade2.png
     
    • Like Like x 6
  2. The dinh

    The dinh Rebel Official

    Joined:
    Nov 24, 2019
    Posts:
    693
    Likes Received:
    1,534
    Trophy Points:
    6,292
    Credits:
    2,825
    Ratings:
    +2,264 / 2 / -0
    Thanks!
    Mine would have been like:
    [​IMG]
     
    • Funny Funny x 6
  3. Darth Derringer

    Darth Derringer Rebel Official

    Joined:
    Mar 9, 2021
    Posts:
    1,283
    Likes Received:
    2,261
    Trophy Points:
    8,117
    Credits:
    2,757
    Ratings:
    +3,137 / 50 / -13
    [​IMG]
    Personally, I think Karen Gillan would make a dynamite Mara Jade. And while her backstory might need to be tweaked, start her off as a likable, kick-butt anti-hero--and then keep her that way!!! It's worked for Marvel's Loki and it would work for Mara Jade too.

    In the immortal words of Tina Turner, we don't need another hero!
    :)
     
    • Like Like x 4
    • Cool Cool x 4
  4. jan blakstar

    jan blakstar Clone Commander

    Joined:
    Jan 24, 2023
    Posts:
    147
    Likes Received:
    176
    Trophy Points:
    302
    Credits:
    606
    Ratings:
    +237 / 6 / -0
    Well, since they're bringing her action figure back out, I guess she's making her way back into canon somehow.
     
    • Like Like x 3
    • Informative Informative x 1
    • Hopeful Hopeful x 1
  5. NinjaRen

    NinjaRen Supreme Leader

    Joined:
    Nov 23, 2015
    Posts:
    4,947
    Likes Received:
    103,373
    Trophy Points:
    171,517
    Credits:
    56,817
    Ratings:
    +112,056 / 176 / -32
    Only with major rewrites, but then she wouldn't be Mara Jade anymore, right?

    I've never really liked her in the old EU. For me she always came across as arrogant and really overpowered. She's good in everything and always ahead of everyone, especially Luke. Last but not least, she is always mad about something. Kinda annoying...

    In the end I don't really see any use for her return. She obviously can't be with Luke and have a kid with him. Maybe create a completely new character who uses Mara Jade as blueprint.
     
    • Wise Wise x 3
    • Like Like x 2
  6. Use the Falchion

    Use the Falchion Jedi Contrarian

    Joined:
    Jul 11, 2015
    Posts:
    2,573
    Likes Received:
    11,280
    Trophy Points:
    90,417
    Credits:
    12,073
    Ratings:
    +12,959 / 27 / -10
    I would have loved for her to return, but I'm also okay if they transplant her love story to someone else.

    One of my first thoughts when the Ahsoka trailer came out was "oh, that girl with the lightsaber is probably the Mara Jade character of the new canon." (I mean, we have Thrawn, some Jedi and their allies, and a rogue agent that may or may not be related to Inquisitors and the Emperor - we can all see how this looks like Heir to the Empire!) Depending on how they portray the relationship between Ezra and Sabine (either friends, familial, or romantic), Shin and Ezra could take the place of Mara Jade and Luke.
     
    • Like Like x 2
    • Cool Cool x 2
  7. Darth Derringer

    Darth Derringer Rebel Official

    Joined:
    Mar 9, 2021
    Posts:
    1,283
    Likes Received:
    2,261
    Trophy Points:
    8,117
    Credits:
    2,757
    Ratings:
    +3,137 / 50 / -13
    First off, let me say that my experience with Mara Jade is limited to Zahn's Heir to the Empire trilogy. When I heard rumors the story was going to be revisited for Disney+ or the big screen, I wanted to see what it was about for myself. I had also been aware that some fan sites have touted Karen Gillan as a live-action Mara Jade. I loved Karen in Jumanji and Gaurdians of the Galaxy so I was intrigued to discover what the character she might someday play was all about.

    My take? I liked Mara Jade! I thought she made a great kick-butt anti-hero. What you found 'kinda annoying,' I found 'kinda endearing' because I already knew where her character arc was heading. But, to be fair, it's easy to envision this "good at everything" anti-hero embued with an emotional vulnerability that would resonnate with audiences when you imagine Karen Gillian playing her.

    I'm not sure we need another 'Princess Leia-like' Mara Jade. But a 'Female Loki' Mara Jade could be a lot of fun.
     
    • Cool Cool x 2
    • Like Like x 1
  8. Lord of the Rens

    Lord of the Rens Gatekeeper & Avatar Maker

    Joined:
    Oct 1, 2015
    Posts:
    2,878
    Likes Received:
    28,288
    Trophy Points:
    154,367
    Credits:
    18,268
    Ratings:
    +32,050 / 130 / -50
    I want a Mara Jade /Lando - luv child. That kid would be the smoothest double talker this side of Palpatine.
     
    • Funny Funny x 4
    • Like Like x 1
    • Cool Cool x 1
  9. Use the Falchion

    Use the Falchion Jedi Contrarian

    Joined:
    Jul 11, 2015
    Posts:
    2,573
    Likes Received:
    11,280
    Trophy Points:
    90,417
    Credits:
    12,073
    Ratings:
    +12,959 / 27 / -10
    They never revealed Jannah's mother, have they? And they sort of hinted that she could feel the Force...DON'T GIVE UP! THERE'S STILL HOPE! (Rebellions are built on hope!)
     
    • Like Like x 3
    • Hopeful Hopeful x 1
  10. DarthSnow

    DarthSnow Sith in the North
    Staff Member

    Joined:
    May 9, 2016
    Posts:
    3,365
    Likes Received:
    48,914
    Trophy Points:
    171,477
    Credits:
    16,181
    Ratings:
    +56,037 / 9 / -3
    If she comes back I won't be jumping out of my chair triumphantly, but I will be grinning a bit. Personally I doubt she gets introduced, or re-introduced, BUT if it does happen I would expect it to be this series that does it.

    I think a solid nod would be something like... Sabine is getting questioned by the Imps, and the name she gives them is "Mara Jade." Works on a couple layers, most obviously acknowledging the existence of Mara Jade, we just don't know in what capacity. And also a nod to Ezra's alias game when he would get captured. But perhaps that is too much of a tease for us to handle... :-D
     
    • Like Like x 6
  11. The dinh

    The dinh Rebel Official

    Joined:
    Nov 24, 2019
    Posts:
    693
    Likes Received:
    1,534
    Trophy Points:
    6,292
    Credits:
    2,825
    Ratings:
    +2,264 / 2 / -0
    Holy guacamole, the previous Mara Jade thread got like 8 pages of discussion. I feel very unappreciated. Maybe I should turn to the dark side….
     
    • Like Like x 3
  12. Lord of the Rens

    Lord of the Rens Gatekeeper & Avatar Maker

    Joined:
    Oct 1, 2015
    Posts:
    2,878
    Likes Received:
    28,288
    Trophy Points:
    154,367
    Credits:
    18,268
    Ratings:
    +32,050 / 130 / -50
    Choose your Mentor carefully my friend....
    Losing it.gif
    the Path of Destruction, is not for the faint of heart.​
     
    • Like Like x 2
    • Funny Funny x 2
  13. The dinh

    The dinh Rebel Official

    Joined:
    Nov 24, 2019
    Posts:
    693
    Likes Received:
    1,534
    Trophy Points:
    6,292
    Credits:
    2,825
    Ratings:
    +2,264 / 2 / -0
    TBH, that ride looked like hella fun. Pain is just weakness leaving the body.
     
    • Like Like x 2
    • Funny Funny x 2
  14. Lord of the Rens

    Lord of the Rens Gatekeeper & Avatar Maker

    Joined:
    Oct 1, 2015
    Posts:
    2,878
    Likes Received:
    28,288
    Trophy Points:
    154,367
    Credits:
    18,268
    Ratings:
    +32,050 / 130 / -50
    Dadgummit. - I thought I lined through Mentor carefully and replaced it with Swoop wisely. Must've closed tab too fast.

    But I digress... and yes, I still fly reckless.
     
    • Like Like x 3
  15. MBWilson

    MBWilson Force Sensitive

    Joined:
    Oct 20, 2022
    Posts:
    1,056
    Likes Received:
    4,208
    Trophy Points:
    11,867
    Credits:
    4,017
    Ratings:
    +5,247 / 1 / -0
    Well I was letting my thoughts marinate, or "Mara-nate" (badumpah!) on the subject for a few days so here we go. Firstly a disclaimer. I have a snotty, elitist dislike for most EU material. Not that I have read a great deal of it, but when I did try, it always seemed disjointed and over-the-top fantastical. Heir to the Empire trilogy was something I read back mid to late 90s. Did not like it. I have attempted to give it another shot. Liked it less. Unpopular opinion, I know, but I just can't take it as a viable part of my Star Wars. Thrawn was cool, I sorta liked the idea of the Ysalimari... but Mara Jade was probably one of my most detested elements. Here's my argument.

    Mara Jade is over-sexualized to the point of fetishism. There. I said it. Way off brand for Star Wars, especially now. I don't have a problem with buxom pouty-lipped redheads in tight pants, but if that's all she is, which pretty much is all she represents, well, not in my Star Wars. Oh? She is so much more than that? Ok, next point.

    Mara Jade as a character is basically impossible in Canon, and that was a great favor to the character, because she was ludicrous and over-written to begin with. She was a Force-Sensitive super secret handmaiden serving Palpatine that nobody else knew about. C'mon. That's neck and neck with the idea that Vader had a Force-Sensitive super secret apprentice that nobody else knew about. Silly. She vows to avenge her master and kill Luke Skywalker, but instead she kills his clone, falls in love with Luke, marries him and has his babies. Definitely a strong, driven and independent female character. I never really understood why she was working as a low-level smuggler/pirate instead of hiding out at Palpatine's super secret mountain with his super secret clone of a super secret Jedi Master.

    I am all for elements of EU/Legends stories being cherrypicked and recycled into Canon when it's appropriate and fitting. I think if Thrawn and Tantis are the biggest salvages from Heir, that's some good results. I think their time is much better spent creating new material rather than polishing EU turds just to get nostalgic oohs and ahhs from my generation.

    But that's just like, my opinion, man.
     
    • Like Like x 2
    • Great Post Great Post x 2
  16. Angelman

    Angelman Servant of the Whills -- Slave to the Muses
    1030th Grand Admiral ***** (Mod)

    Joined:
    Dec 2, 2014
    Posts:
    3,567
    Likes Received:
    40,395
    Trophy Points:
    161,967
    Credits:
    20,815
    Ratings:
    +44,537 / 76 / -20
    Don't forget the noghri! With Rukh being re-introduced in Rebels, I have real hope that we might get an, at least partial, re-exploration of the noghri people; they were something that I really, really enjoyed in the Zahn/Thrawn trilogy. I'm a sucker for epic tragedies, and the noghri people pushed all my buttons <3
     
    • Like Like x 3
  17. MBWilson

    MBWilson Force Sensitive

    Joined:
    Oct 20, 2022
    Posts:
    1,056
    Likes Received:
    4,208
    Trophy Points:
    11,867
    Credits:
    4,017
    Ratings:
    +5,247 / 1 / -0
    Yep. Good point. It's funny I saw a lot of criticism over Rukh in Rebels, but that was almost exactly how I saw him in my head. I think the Noghri would and could be great for further exploration.
     
    • Like Like x 1
  18. DarthSnow

    DarthSnow Sith in the North
    Staff Member

    Joined:
    May 9, 2016
    Posts:
    3,365
    Likes Received:
    48,914
    Trophy Points:
    171,477
    Credits:
    16,181
    Ratings:
    +56,037 / 9 / -3
    I appreciate the entirety of your post very much, but I'm just going to stick to this one point. And in doing so I think I've found out what side of the fence I sit on when it comes to her coming back.

    I missed out on a lot of the early Mara Jade stuff, I think I only read Heir to the Empire. And she was cool enough. But I really enjoyed the last bit of her arc in the Legends lore (Legacy of the Force and Fate of the Jedi series). I think you would too, and I'm guessing you probably wouldn't recognize her character all that much. At least not in comparison to the way you describe her above. I don't want to go into details because I'm not an expert by any means, and its been a long time and a galaxy far away since I read any of that.

    But to the point of not recognizing her character.... how many of us really would? What is Mara Jade, besides just a cool name most of us know, and the lucky gal that got shack up with Luke Skywalker? I can tell you right now, with what we know of the new canon in the ST era and slightly before it, there is no chance of her arc going anywhere near what it was like in Legends. So what's the point? To introduce someone now into the new canon and reveal her as Mara Jade would be a disservice to the character as well as to the fans (especially the hardcore Legends fans). You can accomplish any part of her plot by using any number of new characters without having to jump through canonical hoops, let them grow and flourish and have us fall in love with them, all while leaving the legends part of MJ intact.
     
    • Like Like x 4
    • Great Post Great Post x 2
  19. Lord of the Rens

    Lord of the Rens Gatekeeper & Avatar Maker

    Joined:
    Oct 1, 2015
    Posts:
    2,878
    Likes Received:
    28,288
    Trophy Points:
    154,367
    Credits:
    18,268
    Ratings:
    +32,050 / 130 / -50
    (dark)Hello, Kylo Ben.(dark)
     
    • Like Like x 2
  20. The dinh

    The dinh Rebel Official

    Joined:
    Nov 24, 2019
    Posts:
    693
    Likes Received:
    1,534
    Trophy Points:
    6,292
    Credits:
    2,825
    Ratings:
    +2,264 / 2 / -0
    upload_2023-6-22_23-31-11.gif
     
    • Like Like x 3
Loading...

Share This Page