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Mark Hamill officially back for Episode IX

Discussion in 'Star Wars: The Rise of Skywalker' started by VOODOO, Jul 28, 2018.

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    How would it do that? By intervening to help insure the safety of his daughter at the end?

    JJ loves his mystery boxes.....why couldn't Rian be in on things?

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    If he wanted to ensure Rey's safety, Crait wasn't the place to go, but Supremacy. He went to his sister.

    I have no doubt Rian and JJ are and have always been on the same page. I just don't think that's "Rey is Skywalker" page.

    But, hey, you want to believe that - it's all right. I won't try to change your mind. I stated my opinion and now... we #PineForNine.
     
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    I think at this point Rey being Luke’s daughter is wishful thinking. It has been pretty clear (and even as a fan of the ST my biggest complaint) that each director has had their own say in the story without much of anything planned out in advance.

    I would argue and there was a super long thread in the TLJ section about this that TKA pointed at Rey being a nobody. Others argued that it was obvious she was a Skywalker. JJ May have left it ambiguous on purpose but at this point Rian made her a nobody and then killed off Luke. At this point making her a Skywalker is strictly just a retcon
     
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    We still don't know enough about Luke and Rey yet.

    Anakin became something he was not because of the darkside...saved what he loved.
    Luke became something he was not because of the darkside....saved what he loved?????

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    Kylo Ren became something he was not because of the darkside... saves what he loves or GETS saved by what he loves => Rey

    #IndeedPoetry
     
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    I agree that we don’t know much about Luke but I think we know quite a lot about Rey.

    She grew up as a scavenger after being abandoned by her parents. As Maz stated in TFA, that her family was not coming back and that she needed to accept that and move on with her life. We learned from her own mouth that she was basically a nobody (she admits it to Kylo before he even mentions that they were drunks). She is taking over the mantle as the last Jedi from Luke. The whole theme of the last two movies is that a nobody can become somebody. You don’t need bloodlines to be special. There is a rhyming and dichotomy between Rey and Kylo being established. Rey a a person who comes from nowhere to become a hero where as Kylo is somebody, comes from royalty and a family of heroes yet does not live up to it.

    Could JJ make Rey a Skywalker. Sure. However, it would be a pure retcon and not from some master preplanned out design. We would have seen more hints of it in TLJ if that was the case.
     
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    The hero's journey, or in this case the heroine's journey - Return with Elixir
    "The return is also the place for poetic justice. The villain’s sentence should directly relate to his sins and the hero’s reward be proportionate to the sacrifice offered."


    You're right. Rey will help to heal the saber

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    .....and legacy of her divided family by helping or driving Kylo to atone for his past sins. Doing so, Kylo restores honor to himself, his mother, father and their branch of the Skywalker tree.

    Kylo pays for his sins and is redeemed in life or death.
    Rey's reward is knowledge of her family and place in the universe as torch bearer to the family legacy/NJO going forward.



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    If we're looking for anything that describes Rey's arc in these two films, then this graph will be it. Reading through it is kind of scary in terms of how accurately it describes the steps in each film.
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    People forget that Daisy Ridley herself said in an interview, months before TLJ was released, that the answer we get in TLJ, is what was told to her by JJ on the set of TFA.
     
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    Jesus... when are people going to stop taking this guy's bait? Mods close pls?
     
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    Oh god, please don't turn this into another "Is Luke Rey's father?" thread.... theres already a billion of them....
     
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    I wonder if Star Wars for some reason has attracted more than it's fair share of people who repeatedly buy or breed the same kind of dog. Especially the predilection to use the same name.
     
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    Not to mention that his temptation with Ben was completely understandable as he sensed Snoke's corruption of him, and in retrospect, was probably correct. BUT! But. Luke did NOT give in to temptation. Just as he did not with his father in ROTJ. Completely in line with his character, and good storytelling. That people still fail to see that is........troubling.
     
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    I'm sorry, tuned out for sec. Are people still whining about 4 day old posts, posted and discussed in a civil manner with other members?
     
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    i think it would be interesting if luke follows kylo ren around for the whole movie.
    whenever those force ghosts appear it's always to the good guys, but what would be more interesting: luke appearing to rey, giving her tips and encouragement, or having him troll kylo for the whole movie? kylo couldnt touch him - it might be an interesting thing to explore that hasn't been tried in a movie yet. i would wind it up to the maximum: have yoda alongside him as well, and obi wan (i suppose they could use an age made-up ewan macgregor, instead of alec guinness). maybe even anakin as well! all of them in a group together, trolling kylo for the whole movie.
     
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    Ok so let's have your thoughts on this. What happened to Luke's mechanical hand when he "died"? It's either an inconsistency or what I'm thinking is he was a projection the whole time. but it's a speculation I'm still pondering. He kissed Leia on the cheek as a projection and Yoda tapped Luke on the shoulder with his cain as a ghost. There is obviously a new level of interaction abilities being revealed.
     
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    Read this. ;)
     
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    Understand where they are going with this but it just seems as an (pardon me) bad excuse for not paying attention to details and coming up with an quick answer to solve it ;);)..
     
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    If someone suggested it and then the idea got rejected, then this isn't a lack of attention to details but quite the opposite. I understand, to some continuity is the single most important thing in franchises, but I feel like the most important character in the whole of Star Wars (yup, that's right, not Anakin, but Luke) desrves a death scene that isn't undercut by a dropping prosthetic.
     
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    This is so true. Having the robotic hand drop to the ground would have cheapened the moment. The final scenes with Luke were very powerful. The hand dropping to the ground would have ruined the moment
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    This is so true. Having the robotic hand drop to the ground would have cheapened the moment. The final scenes with Luke were very powerful. The hand dropping to the ground would have ruined the moment
     
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