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RUMOR More Pressure-Cooker Nonsense for New Film Trilogy

Discussion in 'General Movie Discussion' started by jan blakstar, Mar 27, 2023.

  1. jan blakstar

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    According to LRMOnline:

    "What do you think of these latest rumors? Lindelof script not great, Obaid-Chinoy chosen by Kathleen Kennedy herself, with KK under pressure to deliver a movie. Finally up to three Star Wars movies to be announced at Celebration."

    I'm not going to kvetch about Kathleen Kennedy. That said, everything else seems the same, and that means worrisome. This seems to be the same recipe for a horrible trilogy of similar poor quality to the Sequels.

    Just when things were starting to get better. Why do they have to keep making the schedule so damn tight and pile a crap-ton of expectation when they should just hammer out one good film and then get the lay of the land from there? Corporate mentality. Corporations do not learn from experience very well at all, and of course we're talking about bureaucratic lag, tunnel vision, greed. The same thing is going to happen again if someone doesn't wake up and make this cycle stop repeating itself. This is the kind of thing that could kill Star Wars.

    I'm beginning to believe that this whole thing would be better off in the public domain with fan films being made off Kickstarter than by any film studio, at least when it comes to theatrical films. I don't think we're going to get back to the quality of the original trilogy this way.

    Well, I've said my piece. Your turn.
     
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    Disney, like every mega corporation, have bitten off more than they can chew. They own too many franchises...and sadly in their eagerness to make money first and good films second they are going for quantity over quality.
     
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    Disney has always been like this, it's an old story. KK is a symptom of that, even when she gets it right. Corporations are NOT good for art. Agh, Artificial Intelligence is better for art than Corporations, and that's still not a good thing.
     
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    LOL! What exactly about the OT is quality? Because I don't see it. Also if the KK 'should get fired' crowd (despite her having a successful 40+ career in a shark tank like Hollywood.)

    Why do they not put their money where their mouth is and finance a film and put it on Youtube? Since they think they can do so much better?



    I honestly can't wait to see it. :)
     
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    Very difficult to take this seriously. It's an example of how people in fandom have no idea how difficult it is to produce and make great movies.
     
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    Fair enough, yes, the production process is challenging at all points, but for a company as long-lived as Disney and with all its resources, they screw up very often. Especially in the case of the Sequel Trilogy, it's too much to take.
    --- Double Post Merged, Apr 11, 2023, Original Post Date: Apr 11, 2023 ---
    I'll have to confess that I hammer on KK a bit too often and in another post I said I'd stop doing that. However, fan films are getting better (more often than I expected they would). As for the OT, I still enjoy it more than I could stand the Sequels. It has its flaws but it still holds up or SW wouldn't be where it is.
     
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    So your example of a company that doesn't know how to make movies is Disney, the most successful movie producer in the world today?
     
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    They don't always miss, but I consider much of what they make as tripe, and I think the public is too accepting of what I consider lackluster creativity. I think that much of what we receive from Hollywood is repetitive rehash and uncreative glitz. This also happens in music, where people can become millionaires making music that is quickly forgotten or is made to appeal to the lowest common denominator. Look at hair metal and alternative. Look at K-pop. It's all stamped out with plastic parts for people to consume mindlessly, like bad candy.
     
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    If someone says the OT isn't a quality product, well I don't know what they're doing here. They weren't just 'quality' they were industry game-changers.
     
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    ???

    You post this and consider the OT to be quality? The wooden acting the cheesy lines? Really?
     
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    It was a risky venture in somewhat untried territory that used some inexperienced actors and had its problems, but it became legend for a reason. I suppose you had to be alive at the time, which I was. You can beat up on it as much as you want, but if it weren't the thing that it is, this forum wouldn't exist, that much is true.
     
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    Unless I missed some details, I wasn’t aware there was any suggestion of another trilogy… just a new film featuring Rey
     
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    Absolutely, it is not a new trilogy, but 3 movies that won't be related one to the other.
    - 1st movie starring Rey and said to occur 15 years after TROS
    - 2nd movie on the very first Jedis, 25.000 years beforre Yavin
    - 3rd movie by said to be "The Mandalorian" by Dave Filoni and located in the sequel era
    inb4 : I don't know if the délivry schedule will be this one.
     
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    (dark) "I know." (dark)
     
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    This makes me feel better. I'm glad I got it wrong. Very hopeful at least for the 2nd and 3rd example you list here.
     
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    I'm hopeful about films #2 and #3 but I have a bad feeling about this one. I hope I'm wrong. I liked Rey's introduction in TFA. But the next two films in the ST didn't do the character (or the actress) any favors.

    It's certainly possible that a kick-butt story could change the opinion of her that currently exists. But given the lineage JJ and Company gave her in TROS, she's got a lot of baggage for the screenplay writers to overcome.

    One of the key ingredients to a great character is someone dealing with flaws and fears the movie-viewing public can relate to. But in Rey "Skywalker's" case, do they dare 'go there' and remind the audience of Rey's true lineage? My gut says their natural inclination is to go the opposite way and double-down on her inherent goodness. IMO, that's not the way to give Star Wars film-hungry audiences a compelling and relatable character.
     
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    Since this is the project Lucasfilm has spent the most time on the past 3 years it clear they believe (as well as the Disney numbers crunchers) a film built around Rey is the surest bet. So while you may not like the character or relate to her you are speaking from a position that may be seen online, but not really reflected by the general audience.

    Rey is a very popular character and has been at the center of their film productions for almost 10 years now. That means all those 8-12 year old kids that loved Rey are now 18-22 when this film comes out. She part of Disney best theme ride and an essential part of the parks.

    Lucasfilm choosing this film first should be act as healthy dose of reality for those who think she's an unpopular character.
     
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    Okie dokie. We'll see.
     
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    Well, they are the entire reason there's a franchise so they must be pretty good.
     
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    EXACTLY, @NunbNuts! The thing that young Star Wars fans don't 'get' is what a monumental seachange the original SW film ignited. It completely revolutionized the film industry. It was never the same after George gobsmacked audiences with his sci-fi film back in 1977. One could argue that today's 'blockbusters' (e.g. Guardians of the Galaxy Vol. 3) can be traced directly back to the success of George's first Star Wars film and its two sequels.
     
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