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Mr Plinkett's Last Jedi Review

Discussion in 'Star Wars: The Last Jedi' started by Adam812, Sep 1, 2018.

  1. Adam812

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    Its finally here. Watch Mr. Plinkett destroy The Last Jedi as he as done with the prequels. I personally liked
    The Last Jedi but I actually agree with most of his criticisms. He also makes me laugh. Enjoy!

     
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    Comedic review, but seems like more propaganda to dethrone KK. (Which I don't want because I want to see a GoT Old Republic Star Wars film created by B&W showrunners:D. This will definitely go away if KK is released:(). Hopefully JJ, remake King, soft reboot Lord, brings Star Wars back... to some sort of greatness.

    I can't see Star Wars fans boycotting Episode 9, like SOME did for the SOLO film. I think allot of people will come out to see a JJ directed film, but roughly 6 months later, Episode 9 or whatever it will be called, will be bashed once the spectacle has somewhat subsided....

    I for one, kind of liked how RJ didn't give spoiled Star Wars fans what they really wanted... hehe ... because at the end of the day, Star Was' fans would have complained nonetheless... (gamorrean)
     
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    That review was amazing and on point for the most parts. "Mr. Plinkett" doesn't only make fun (which is actually funny) about the movie, no, he actually shows the ups and downs of TLJ and Star Wars in general.

    It's definitely worth a watch and it doesn't matter whether you like or dislike TLJ.
     
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    I couldn't make it too far in, there's only so much I can take. I don't actually find these guys funny. Every once in a while, yeah, but mostly not really. I did like the cat bit with the moon landing. I guess a disclaimer that it's pretty difficult to make me laugh so, me not finding them funny is not so much a criticism of them but perhaps if anything, of me.

    Anyway, in the end, it's just like, someone stating things that really either have no meaning or are subjective, and not really true criticism. Like every other thread reply I've had. It keeps being the same doesn't it? And of course, as I've said, I have no love of "critics" - well, actually I should say, no love of the "act of criticism" as it's employed in the popular arena. I just think it's exploitation of art for sake of a buck. And hey, I can understand if these guys get money from this, why not? I guess they have to eat like everyone else, and there's really no easier a job than, critic. Like they say, those who can, do; those who can't - critique.

    But of what I'd reply in comment; he's just bringing up the same tired routine of, not putting any real thought into anything, and just passing off his emotions as if they have some kind of objective relation to the material. But they don't. Like a guy who doesn't like rock and roll saying, "It's too loud and too fast" as if that's a critique when that's the point of rock and roll.

    Again, the "military strategy isn't realistic". This is how it always is in movies. Strategy is unrealistic, the bad guy's plans generally terrible. Since we're doing Star Wars, pop back to Empire. Everyone seems to regard that as "top tier Star Wars" but the military strategy is ridiculous if viewed through the lens of actuality. What kind of strategy involves landing slow-moving walkers (who would even construct - let alone employ - that type of troop transport at any time?) miles from your target to slowly march toward the target. Fly your quickest most maneuverable fighters to do it. Have them descend on target, not approach from miles away. When the rebels are escaping, the ion cannon can take out the cruisers but where are the TIE fighters? Why aren't they engaging the transports? Why are you driving your cruisers into the asteroid field, Vader? Your TIE fighters are following the target. Why are you causing needless casualities and depletion of resources for nothing?

    This happens all the time in movies and it's never a critical problem until suddenly it is. But if you made the strategy realistic in a military sense, there would be no story about a rag-tag group of rebels because they'd be wiped out at the beginning of the story. Superior troop mobilization by the side with the greatest resources would quickly end the opposition. You're not going to guerilla warfare a galactic empire with a thousand people and a handful of ships. Realistic battle strategy would make a movie that was hated for being boring - or, as they say now "pacing".

    Pacing, that word every critic employs as a general placeholder for "I was bored". But dropping the word "pacing" makes it sound like the critic has some special knowledge which lends objective credibility to his criticism. "I was bored" doesn't do that.

    Then there's the "too much stuff" motif. Too much stuff in the LotR movies? Too much stuff in Infinity War? When is too much really too much, and why is there the obvious double-standard employed across the board? What if "that story has too much stuff" really means "my brain has too little comprehension"

    The bits about Star Trek? For starters, in that montage, Picard is talking to his senior staff. Where are the officers who aren't on the senior staff? They're at their posts, silently awaiting to follow orders without questioning the final decision made by the captain. Star Trek has all of these same "problems" and that's when I lost interest in the video. Being a fan of both franchises, I already know they're the same, and criticism of one is criticism of the other. If you're using Star Trek to try to justify your criticismns of Star Wars then, I question your ability to reason with any competence.

    But this is all what CinemaSins parodies. I don't know how many times I've seen people chiding CinemaSins, when CinemaSins is the actual parody of the critics. It's like they don't realize that CinemaSins is making fun of them for doing exactly what CinemaSins does - with the exception that CinemaSins knows it's paradoy and isn't serious in its criticism, while the ones of which it's parody, don't know they're the parody and are very serious in their criticism. What makes CinemaSins a target is that they don't operate by the double-standard employed by "serious" critics, and "no movie is safe" not even the "best" ones. That is the point. Criticism of the type of criticism employed in the Plinkett video, when applied without a double-standard, makes every movie under the sun the object of meaningless, often ignorant, nit-picking by way of double-standard.

    So that's my review of the Plinkett review. And pretty much every critic's review of anything out there. But hey, all they have to do is sit around talking about themselves and their emotional responses, the masses will eat it up and they'll get their money and be able to eat. So in the end, whatever. Good job gaming the system.
     
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    GREAT POST, I LOVE READING YOUR POST. GREAT STUFF INDEED...
     
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    You are no different than the other Star Wars fans. Here you are talking about what you want Disney to make. Would you consider yourself to be spoiled?
     
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    comparing this review with the force awakens and the prequel reviews that they have done... it felt a little bit weak, but still entertaining
     
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    I don't even know who Mr Plinkett is :confused:
     
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    I have been unambiguous about my disdain for TLJ, and to me this review was hilarious. Can't say that I agree with it all, but I haven't agreed with each point of dissension or acclaim by any reviewer. He does bring up some valid points that I hadn't considered. A good review.
     
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    No, I won't get upset, or hate episode 9, if it doesn't go my way. Thats why I enjoyed TLJ, even though it didn't go my way I still enjoyed the film and consider it a great Star Wars movie (even though it didn't go my way). I wanted Luke to kick all kinds of ass and go after the KOR in TLJ. I wanted Rey to be somebody. I waited 2 years. She is nobody and I still like the film.

    I can wish for something to happen or speculate, that doesn't put me in the category of a spoiled Star Wars fan. I don't want KK to be fired. How is that a spoiled Star Wars fan? I want an Old Republic Star wars film( which is most likely already in the works). How is that a spoiled Star Wars fan? If I don't get those things I will remain the same Star Wars fan I am today. If you consider me a spoiled Star Wars fan that is your opinion and I won't have a problem with that.
     
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    A much more thoughtful take on the movie than another clickbait Plinkett b***h fest:

     
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    horses for courses i guess, but i don't find him funny in the slightest.

    Star Wars bashing is all i see/hear, but i admit that i turned it off after a few minutes of it. I can't listen to someone using nasty childish ways to belittle others.
     
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    You should really give it a try. It's not only bashing, but also a lot of real criticism. He talks about the good stuff too. @RockyRoadHux and I had a good and entertaining time watching it. Yeah, you have to get used to Plinkett's way of doing things, but it's worth it.
     
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    i trust you (well i trust @RockyRoadHux, and she trusts you.. so the trust is passed on i guess hahaha :p), so i'll consider giving it a watch.
    an hour is a bloody long time, and i'm not sure i can possibly give credit to someone that says such horrid things that touch a nerve with me.
     
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    Usually the Plinkett reviews are more transparently satirical. They play up this fictional character as a deranged shut-in whose ‘passion’ for Star Wars is unhinged. You aren’t supposed to directly relate to him. He’s a sociopath. This one read as a straight up review which was weird to me. Not a particularly bad one though. The focus is still on entertainment rather than actually criticism, so taking it in earnest is sort of silly to me. The joke's on you in that case :D

    Probably the central thesis of it all is that the screenplay has more in common with a traditional ‘comedy of errors’ than an action/adventure serial. And that led to an awkward atonal nature. That’s not off base. It’s pretty astute, IMO. But he prefaces the piece by saying there’s more going on than he first gave credit. Then doesn’t mention anything all that redeeming. Meh, it did its job: be entertaining. I was entertained.
     
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    "Remember kids, if it sounds like a snake, it's a mistake."

    That's solid advice right there lol
     
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    Great review. Many in the anti-SJW crowd won’t care for this one.
     
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    This was actually pretty good and very informative. On the paper TLJ sounds like a fantastic movie, unfortunately the execution wasn't that great.
     
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    I know hindsight has the luxury of getting Lasik and all, but the more I think about, the more I feel like Ep8 should really have been Leia’s sequel. Our farewell to Luke should have been reserved for the finale. It just makes more sense to me that way.
     
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