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Discussion in 'Star Wars: The Force Awakens' started by Lord Cannabis, Dec 5, 2014.

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    not sure if anyone has read this yet....if so, i am sure the admins will delete this thread. myself...i think this is completely bad ass...as in AWESOME!


    Part 1: http://www.reddit.com/r/StarWars/comments/2nyd64/rumor_potential_4chan_episode_vii_leak_possible/
    Spoiler Man, the same individual that "leaked" an abundance of information on November 30th, has returned and answered more questions. His trip code is the same so there's no denying that this person has the same identity as the one who posted two nights ago. Again, it's all plausible if not likely. I've gathered up the new information for you guys below. Read on at your own risk.
    • The premise of the film is that the Force has become stronger and more potent. There is a great tremor in the Force early in the film; those familiar with the Force feel as if its fundamental nature has somehow changed, while previously oblivious Force-sensitive individuals suddenly realize that they have a gift. This creates a great dichotomy of where to go, because neither Luke nor the antagonists are ready for this new liberation of awareness.
    • Following the repression of the Empire and the Jedi purge, the Force is finally manifesting itself in more people who have the capacity to use it. In this context, it appears as if the Force wants to be used.
    John Boyega, Luke Skywalker, and Daisy Ridley
    • Boyega is, for all intents and purposes, the “new Luke Skywalker” (with a touch of Han Solo thrown in). He realizes he’s Force-sensitive when he feels the aforementioned tremor.
    • Boyega is an orphan.
    • Boyega, Daisy, and Adam Driver are all weak in terms of the Force throughout the film.
    • Luke has trained seven Jedi since Endor, two of whom surface in the third act. It is unknown whether Lupita Nyong’o’s character is included in this distinction.
    • In terms of character nature, Luke is like Yoda’s successor.
    • No mention is made of Luke having a child.
    • Palpatine is referenced a couple of times, particularly regarding his role and the decisions he made during Luke’s temptation and resistance in Return of the Jedi.
    • Luke went into seclusion following an event post-Endor that has caused him to become hesitant when using his power to its full extent. He’s not really hiding, but rather hoping to keep attention off of his activities.
    • People think Luke is a bit of a kook given his 20 year absence, but he is said to have a purpose and plan behind his decisions. He’s a bit of an urban legend by the time the film starts.
    • Luke has come to the conclusion that the Jedi are not meant to be an open, quasi-police force like they were in the prequels. He has a close connection to the living Force, and he believes balance must be maintained through a lack of interference in the mundane conflicts of the galaxy. Luke’s contention is that the Jedi, while still needing to promote peace, order, and harmony, cannot actively become servants for any government – including the Republic. Past events and the demise of the old order are said to have taught him that.
    • He is also said to be in contact with Obi-Wan and Qui-Gon in addition to Yoda.
    • Luke does not die, turn evil, or go crazy.
    • Daisy Ridley’s character, "Kira", has been raised incognito to both keep her safe from Inquisitors and from traitors within the Republic.
    • Kira's ball droid is not related to R2D2, and its existence was apparently requisitioned by Disney.
    • She inherits Luke’s original blue lightsaber in the first act of the film.
    • Luke’s lightsaber is said to be one of the things that sets the entire film into motion.
    Han, Leia, Oscar Isaac, and Domhnall Gleeson
    • Leia has been the Republic leader for some 30 years.
    • Han and Leia are married.
    • Han does not die in the film. With that being said, his death is apparently being planned for Episode VIII. I would remind you all, however, that his death was also planned for Episode VI.
    • The Falcon has been retrofitted by Solo and it is implied that he has had a couple of adventures these past 30 odd years, with and without Leia.
    • The X-Wings in the trailer are on Yavin.
    • There are Blue, Red, and Gold fighter squadrons in the film.
    • Oscar Isaac’s character, "Darklighter", is stationed on Yavin. He is the leader of Blue Squadron.
    • Han calls Isaac’s character “kid”, much to his annoyance.
    • Domhnall Gleeson’s character is an Imperial officer who defects to the Republic. He is described as a “wingman” that joins the core cadre of good guys.
    Adam Driver, Andy Serkis, Max Von Sydow, and Boba Fett
    • Adam Driver’s character is the leader of Red Squadron. He is a hot shot fighter axe with dreams of grandeur, and has an ominous fascination with power and the Sith. He collects items relating to their order and has a close relationship with a past character who may or may not have fallen to the Dark Side.
    • The hilt on the lightsaber he builds (the one from the trailer) is said to not function as a crossguard.
    • Driver is largely untrained in the Force as of Episode VII.
    • Andy Serkis’ species is one we have never seen before.
    • Serkis’ machinations and outlook are very different from Palpatine’s. He believes the Rule of Two is a foolish edict and considers Palpatine as having made a couple of mistakes.
    • We will learn who trained Serkis in the third act.
    • Serkis is described as “legit”, and a “worthy foe to [Luke]”.
    • Max Von Sydow’s character is not Boba Fett, Darth Maul, or Mace Windu.
    • While Sydow’s identity is a surprise, it’s not necessarily earth-shattering. It’s the sort of thing that hardcore fans would be excited about, but overly casual fans likely won’t realize the significance of. Sydow’s identity does have meaning, but you need to know the context.
    • Boba Fett does appear, albeit very briefly.
    The Expanded Universe
    • While the EU is disregarded whenever it interferes with the story trying to be told, apparently a few elements from the Del Rey / Bantam books have become legitimate. For example, Boba Fett’s short story in Tales from Jabba’s Palace is assumed to be how he escaped.
    • No EU characters are used.
    • Darth Revan is not in the film, and the mask that Adam Driver’s character wears did not belong to him.
    Planets
    • The Scandanavian esque planet is called Sullarn (as of the film's second draft), and it exists mostly in the film’s third act.
    • The planets visited in the film are Tatooine, Yavin, Coruscant, Sullarn, and a final fifth planet from the third act.
    • Tatooine is only seen in the first act (the Cantina and Garindan make appearances) and Coruscant is seen very briefly. Two parallel storylines converge on Sullarn, where the film’s climax takes place.
    • Sullarn is said to be like Taiga at its best, and the arctic at its worst.
    General Information
    • There are many visual throwbacks to the prequel trilogy. A lot of conventional props, masks, and prosthetics will be used.
    • There is no kissing in the movie, no blood, no Benedict Cumberbatch, no Watto, and no black antagonists.
    • “I am your father” esque twists are trying to be saved/concocted for Episode VIII.
    • Rebels will have connections to Episode VII, particularly regarding the Inquisitors. Disney has dictated the deep and thorough implementation of the Inquisitors into the Rebels storyline.
    • Disney has apparently interfered in several matters regarding the film. That, coupled with "oversights", is causing Abrams great stress; Spoiler Man describes him as looking "10 years older every time we see him" and having no love lost for Disney at this point.
    • There are three lightsaber battles in the film. Two of the three illustrate the vast skill gap between the combatants, and the third is “magnificent”, “heavy hitting”, and “original-trilogy styled”.
    • The Empire is said to become more of a secondary foe as the new trilogy progresses.
    • The film is apparently on par (quality wise) with Episode IV. "I'd say its as good as A New Hope", Spoiler Man says when asked which film it measures up to.
    • Spoiler Man claims to have seen the script and some raw footage/dailies. He has great respect for Kasdan.
    • He contends that everything he says will be “95% correct”, but also that Disney and Lucasfilm are actively leaking fake information to spin things different ways and throw people off. In February, the influx of information both true and false will result in apparent contradictions.
    • Ali Arikan is said to be one of the mouthpieces for the fake spins.
    • Spoiler Man’s last message is that we “don’t fall to the spin machine”.
    Part 3: http://np.reddit.com/r/StarWars/comments/2o6rse/rumor_potential_4chan_episode_vii_leak_part_3/
    Part 4: http://www.reddit.com/r/StarWars/comments/2ob7ns/rumor_potential_4chan_episode_vii_leak_part_4/
    Make of this what you will. Also bear in mind that Spoiler Man's contention that the trailer will release on May 1st has, as of December 2nd, been proven true. See the context links below for more info.
    The source (part 1): http://archive.4plebs.org/tv/thread/51051918
    The source (part 2): http://archive.4plebs.org/tv/thread/5111798 MOD (DarthDwight) - DEAD LINK
    The leaked concept art: http://imgur.com/a/uRMnN
    The teaser: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=OMOVFvcNfvE
    Trailer release date confirmation: http://www.slashfilm.com/second-star-wars-force-awakens-trailer/
    Principle cast and crew: http://cdn.screenrant.com/wp-content/uploads/star-wars-epiosde-7-cast-image.jpg
     
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    @Pomojema
    Is this the same info you already shared?
     
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    I just have a hard time believing the bits about Disney's heavy hand. Lucasfilm may be owned by Disney, but so are Marvel and Touchstone, and I doubt Disney brass would have... well... the brass to actually step in to any of those studio's productions and muck with the people that have a clue what they're doing. Yeah, this is the cash cow, and what they spent all their cheese on, but I doubt the execs, (or whomever this supershadow claims to be interfering with production), have the time, the patience, or the knowledge of the universe to be dictating bologna about TFA.
     
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    Following the repression of the Empire and the Jedi purge, the Force is finally manifesting itself in more people who have the capacity to use it. In this context, it appears as if the Force wants to be used??? Did they just rewrite the midichlorians?
     
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    i like the idea of there being a ton of nascent Force users around with no guidance. the awakening could just be a sense of purpose suddenly coming up, like the unknown baddie starting their plans and Luke responding in kind. our characters start as ambiguous in terms of morality and suddenly they are presented with a choice, only internally, like the Force almost presents it to them directly. the balance is shifting and you can either help it slide one way or another. i dunno, just kinda spit balling here!
     
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    I really don't understand this. Do you guys really believe that someone is capable of such huge legit DUMP? And it all will be just standing there... on 4Chan?
     
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    No but we are bored and desperate ;) okay maybe impatient is a better word.

    You got something real for us? I kid I kid.

    I just hope spoiler boys are getting paid for the traffic they have generated. At least get paid for your work.
     
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    Heh, Dump.
     
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    deleting or not deleting "dumps" like these is tricky, though. if they do delete then it says something to the legitimacy of the leak. if they don't then they're pretty much saying it's a non-event. goodness knows what the real deal is, but i agree, it does seem a little too good to be true.
     
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    But it's all we got
     
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    That spoiler person is largely promoted and the rumors largely perpetuated on the force.net boards by someone named starocean90. I would hazard a guess they're all the same person.
     
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    Exactly.
    The language is all wrong for a start. You don't know the details of a film script and say things like:
    "... but he is said to have a purpose and plan behind his decisions."
    Just compare the language and how details are "framed" with any of our more trusted and respected spoiler dealers. You'll see the difference.
     
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    obviously no way of knowing if this stuff he is saying is legit.. i have just finished reading all the links that are attached in the post. i find alot of it entertaining and i really hope that alot of it is true. I can tottaly buy into the whole meaning behind the force awakening he describes. If he is full of crap...i wish they would have let him write the script...because i would love that movie
     
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    The percentage of consumers who read spoiler news and then decide not to see the move based on the spoilers is so small that it doesn't matter - regardless of if the spoiler is legit or not. As someone who has dealt with massive IP marketing before, any news is good news so long as it creates traffic and excitement and doesn't cause a huge negative MEDIA reaction. Leaking a script or even a phony script doesn't impact ticket sales. What impacts ticket sales is post-release reviews. Having a respected critic post a horrible review of the movie prior to release is more problematic than a leaked script.

    So who cares if the info is out on the web - what the most important thing to do if they care about this sort of thing is to take action against the leaker if they turn out to have violated company policy - and that is merely an HR issue about trust.

    If the legit rumor is Han Solo dies in the movie! - people will go to see this.
    If the legit rumor is Han Solo doesn't die in the movie! - people will go to see this.

    Going around and nuking every leak doesn't really gain you anything prior to launch. It only creates negativity whereas spoilers create positive reactions.
     
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    really,
    I'm not a force.net member, I lurk here and there and it's a person called Obi-Wan that claims to know spoilerman
    http://boards.theforce.net/threads/...poilerman-leak.50024812/page-32#post-51997159
    http://boards.theforce.net/threads/...poilerman-leak.50024812/page-33#post-51997196

    Edit
    also according to other posters at the force.net, Obi-Wan (member since 2001) hasn't had any posts at the force.net until spoilerman appeared.
     
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    Whoa, whoa, hold on, hold on, hold on...
    Is this (attached image) supposed to have come from "Spoilerman", or was this some kind of joke? I don't have time to trawl back through the several threads devoted to him at this precise moment...
    scriptcopy2.jpg
     
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    It's already been posted.
    It sounds like crap.
     
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    Now, even IF this should turn out to be authentic (which I do not believe for a second), that’s one atrocious section of “script”… ;)
     
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    Oh, there you are starocean.
     
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    I don't recall the name starocaen,
    when I read the posts this guy Obi-Wan is who stood out, didn't notice anybody else suspicious.
     
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