SPECULATION OFFICIAL Rey Discussion Thread

Off- topic: is it just me or does Luke look like Marty Mcfly in that gif...?

 

definitely not in the Luke is Rey's father camp for these reasons.

at first i swayed a little that way, but after watching the movie 6 or 7 or 12 times (i've lost count), i've come to believe that's not the case. partly because the clues feel "obvious" but mostly because if Luke went into perfect unfindable exile, he would have taken his daughter with him. i don't think Luke had anything to do with Rey being dropped off on Jakku, and probably had only a vague idea she was alive (if at all).

i've come to believe that there's no family connection between Rey and the Skywalkers.

She is the catalyst for finally putting that house in order, but not from inside.

 

Rey is Snokes daughter... Or is that asking too much?
"Rey I'm your father" (In a sort of Plaqueis type of way).


This was a joke guys. Please don't hurt me

 

I mean the callbacks to Luke and Anakin are so numerous and so obvious that I simply cannot believe that they aren't intentional.

 

Yes that is too much, Rey being the daughter of Chewie and Maz seems to fit the narrative.

They thought they could throw us off by making Rey grow up on Jakku instead of Tatooine, two planets with no similarities what so ever.

 

The Luke's-not-her-father-camp believes the callbacks are intentional, but that they're there to throw us off.

Maybe so...but I rather think they're there to build anticipation ( it's certainly having that effect ).

I might add that by focusing on the content of the movie, we tend to miss the most obvious reasons: simplicity and thematic consistency.

Let's see what happens when we try to fill in the blank space on the question below.

Q.
The first trilogy is about Anakin, some dude. He has a lightsaber.
The second trilogy is about Luke, son of the first trilogy's main character, whose lightsaber he inherits.
The third trilogy is about Rey, ________ of the second trilogy's main character, whose lightsaber she inherits, overriding his nephew's claim to it.

a ) Daughter
b ) Niece
c ) Aunt
d ) Sister
e ) Gender swapped clone of the father
f ) Gender swapped clone
g ) Granddaughter of the arch-enemy
h ) Granddaughter of the old master
i ) Jar Jar Binks
j ) Non-relation

A. ___

Now, I don't know about you guys, but I'm starting to think it's definitely i)

 

it's either "i" or they are deliberately subverting the pattern.

Kylo Ren wants the lightsaber, but it seems to have a mind of its own. if Luke had to resist a call to the dark and Ben is resisting a call to the light, then there's the parallel and Rey becomes the path to the final outcome (who's to say that Ben won't end up with the lightsaber, ultimately. he's the one fixated on his grandfather).

i'm just throwing that out in a devil's advocacy sort of way. i think the writers are drawing deliberate parallels, yes, but not necessarily in the way we expect.

 

Well, he may end up with it up his *!#%^* at the end of Episode IX

 

hahaha ~ fair enough.

 

I feel like people have been conditioned to just, kind of expect some kind of "twist" in movies these days. Films do it so much, and often poorly, and seem to forget that doing a twist purely for it's own sake isn't automatically a good thing.

Sometimes the "simplest" and "most obvious" answers are the best ones, or at least make the most sense.

 

Could be possible.

--- Double Post Merged, Jan 20, 2016, Original Post Date: Jan 20, 2016 ---

Makes me wonder if the passing of the lightsaber is only a metaphor for passing the torch from one generation of hero to the next. Rey will more than likely construct her own lightsaber / staff.

 

I was thinking about the scene that Kylo says "It IS you" when the light saber respond to her force pull instead of him. Pablo Hidalgo said it was a reference to the awakening Kylo had sensed before. But if this is true, Kylo should have known that she was the awakening during the interrogatory. In that moment he is defeated by her. And later he even say that they have to be cautious, because she is discovering her new powers. He knows her powers are awakening. Why he would say that "It IS you" only when she force pulled the light saber? Makes me think Pablo might just be deliberately misleading people.

 

Yeah, I think that Pablo is being deliberately cryptic and evasive. Because some of the stuff that he has claimed seem to make things make LESS sense rather than more. Perhaps he sprinkling in some truth, mixed in with misdirection, which would make sense.

But we'll see.

 

I think so, too. Could be Pablo's obfuscating the matter deliberately. Like he's letting people assume that the "awakening" just means a random person manifesting with the Force which Kylo sensed, but it could be that the "awakening" from Kylo's perspective is actually a very specific person coming into the Force.... After all it hasn't been 100% clarified what the awakening is.

 

i think it's pretty obvious that the "awakening" refers to Rey. i don't think there's any mystery there. the mystery is in the "it is you" line, which seems to indicate that Kylo Ren knows who she is/was. i'm guessing it got cut to not tip that information too soon.

i'm still betting he's the one who ditched her on Jakku and that's why he knows who she is.

 

http://www.nasdaq.com/article/hasbro-disney-launching-new-rey-star-wars-toys--update-20160111-01301

"One of the biggest surprises that filmmakers wanted to keep under wraps was that the Force awakens in Rey and she carries a lightsaber," said Paul Southern, head of licensing for Lucasfilm.

I think its safe and fare to say that the force awakens is about Rey

 

Oh I know the awakening is definitely about Rey. I just think that Pablo might be misleading by trying to imply that there's nothing more to it than Kylo sensing Rey gaining her abilities - as if Kylo would've sensed anyone in the galaxy awakening to the Force. There might be a very specific reason why her, of all people, manifesting with the Force is something that Kylo and Snoke pick up on. There could be some kind of familiar signature that they detected. That would explain why the interrogation scene wouldn't be enough to clue Kylo in that it's her he sensed earlier, and then seeing her with the Skywalker lightsaber is what it took to confirm his suspicions.

 

completely agree! like i said before, i think Kylo Ren ditched her on Jakku in the first place (if not, he certainly knew her as a child). i have a feeling what he knows and what Snoke knows might not be quite the same at this point.

 

The question is still: Who are Uther and Igraine?