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Potential Inconsistency? Which Planet does the Death Star destroy first?

Discussion in 'Rogue One' started by Travcon, Oct 25, 2016.

  1. Travcon

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    It is a generally accepted idea that during Rogue One Jedha is destroyed, presumably by the Death Star.

    But this could be in conflict with this part of ANH:



    Tarkin clearly states that Leia in a way gets to decide which planet the Death Star destroys first.

    So that leaves either there is some wiggle room in Tarkin's words, a possible misinterpretation of the exact cause of Jedha destruction, incorrect information in that Jedha isn't actually destroyed at all, or there is simply an irreconcilable inconsistency.

    Here are some of my theories to avoid the dreaded inconsistency

    Jedha is only partially destroyed in a not so successful preoparational test of the DS but enough to totally lay waste to the surface for any type of life to exist and rendered lost and forgotten.

    Jedha is destroyed but as a result of the over mining of the crystals used to construct the planet destroying weapon which triggers some type of internal geological catastrophe.
     
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    Who knows, maybe Jedha doesn't get fully destroyed?! Maybe they test the weapon without a cyber crystal. I dunno.
     
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    I think it will destroy the surface, but not the planet itself. Jedi A will be unhabitable and remember what Baze says in the trailer: "You destroyed our home"
     
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    I think the Death Star will destroy the capital we've seen in the trailers but not the entire planet, but a good chunk of it.
     
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    I wish they would stop cheapening the original movies' events. Jabba's reveal in RotJ means far less. Two Jedi being alive after the clone wars is no big deal anymore. AT-AT's and AT-ST's are old news for both us as an audience and the Rebels. Luke supposedly confronted Vader before he did in ESB(that is what happens in the comics AFAIK). Now the death star blew up a planet before Alderaan, apparently. None of it necessary either.
     
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    If Jedha is indeed destroyed then it would really be a flaw made by the movie makers as Tarkin clearly tells Leia that she will be a guest at the ceremony that would make the battle station operational. If Tarkin is making an inauguration of the Death Star, how could it have shot at something already even if it didn't destroy it? An inauguration means it's never been used. Tarkin also says that nobody will dare oppose them after they demonstrate the power of the Death Star and that Leia is the one to present the choice of the planet that will be destroyed ''first''. I think this is enough clear info to let us know that the Death Star has never even been fired yet.
     
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    Absolutely. It'd be a huge flaw.

    But I don't think Jedha will be destroyed. I think just the main City will or a big chunk of the surface will in Death Star drills/practices. This would make the most sense.
     
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    My two cents. Didn't the Imperials have "a test" before Alderaan? To me that always sounded as though the Deathstar was successfully launched against another planet before.
     
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    Maybe without a crystal, it can only kill life on a panet just as howa magniftying glass kills ants but the crystal itself can blow up planets.
     
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    Tarkin says:
    a) they will destroy Alderaan to demonstrate the Death Star's destructive power
    b) that Alderaan would be the first planet to be destroyed by it

    So, yeah, major inconsistency. Even if they don't completely obliterate Jedha, the Death Star's "destructive power" would be somewhat obvious if it destroys the planet's surface.
     
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    That's not cheapening the films. The OT is around 49 years old, everyone already knows what's going to happen. Prototype technology and everything makes perfect sense in a constantly evolving world, just because something appeared first in one film doesn't mean it's never been around before, having other Jedi alive doesn't matter. Only Luke can inspire his father to topple the Empire. None of these events have contradicted or ruined any part of the films in my mind and many others.

    Star Wars is not just the films' events, it's one big universe.
    I'm pretty sure the planet has been blockaded, and put in lockdown by the Empire. Sounds pretty easy to cover it up.
     
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    I totally agree with you Duckface. How can Tarkin have told Leia that what happened with Alderaan would be a test to show the station was operational and that now no one would dare oppose them once they saw the Death Star's power? Even if the Empire had simply fired the super laser as a test and only obliterated a single city or a chunk of the planet that would still count as a test shot and EVERYBODY who wasn't killed there but knew of the events would quickly spread the word. The news of the total obliteration of a city at the hands of the Empire would travel fast and spread around the Rebels and I'm pretty sure they would have mounted a desperate attempt to try to stop the station from going online.
     
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    I have a theory that I base on what I read a while back was a discarded element of TFA and an actual part of the plot of another series.

    What if the rebels are the ones that either purposefully or accidentally blow up Jedha in the attempt to stop the construction of the DS?
     
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    I don't see any reason why Jedha being destroyed, contradicts what Tarkin is saying, or cheapens the impact of Alderaan's destruction. You would think that the weapon had to have been tested before- this was just the "ceremony" that makes it operational- everything piece of technology that's released goes through testing most of that isn't made public. It would be pretty embarrassing to brag to Leia about the power the death star and have it not work.
     
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    We know that there is a weapon test imminent, and we know they go to Jedha to get crystals they need for the focusing of the beam. The destruction in the trailer is huge, but not that of a fully operational weapon. Think of the atom bomb, we all know the name of the 2 cities that got hit but not to many know the date of the first weapon test. History isn't always a exact narration. So maybe he is right from a certain point of view that Alderaan is the planet that is first destroyed.
     
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    Haaaa, "certain point of view" explains inconsistencies both in- and out of the Star Wars universe.

    The atom bomb tests took place in unpopulated areas, not what is being described as a de facto Jerusalem/Mecca type area.
     
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    "Jedha is in the oouutteerr rreeiimm *coughs and splutters*. It is a desert planet, testing should be safe there!"

    On a serious note, is Jedha in the outer rim? I can't remember. If so, not many people live in that system compared to the core and mid-rim worlds. Much easier to cover up than say, Alderaan.
     
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    Jedha seems pretty inhabited from what we've seen so far .
     
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    I don't think "a certain point of view" needs to be invoked. The Death Star won't destroy a planet in Rogue One, so there is no inconsistency. I've obviously not seen the movie yet, but my faith in Lucasfilm to not make a glaringly obvious mistake is pretty firm.
     
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    All we've seen are a few settlements. You could also say Tatooine is pretty inhabited.
     
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