EVENT PREQUEL THERAPY SUPPORT GROUP

Before I say this, I like the prequels I'm not here to bash them, but the most cringe worthy moment was when JarJar was explaining why he was banished. I knew then that this was a different type of SW film that I was used to watching. I hope Ahmed Best is doing fine.

 

The only parts I really cringed at were every scene with Jar Jar and the ill conceived NOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOO!

 

I like the prequels.

 

Despite The Phantom Menace being a little cold (that's why Jar Jar is actually that hated, because he contrast with the coldness of the rest of the cast), I found that film kinda solid both visually and story-wise. For me the problems started in the second episode because that film was trying too much: spy film, romance film, circus film, war film, scifi film... for me it was visually inconsistent with the rest of the saga due to digital overdose (I don't care they built much more practical sets in the prequels, truth is that every single frame in episode II has a digital FX, McCallum dixit).

THE cringe moment for me was the when Anakin and Padme saw each other for the first time in 10 years. I get what Lucas was trying: portray Anakin as a naif guy (sand dialog later in the film being part of it) but it just doesn't work for me, that subplot was embarrassing.

Other than that, I respect Lucas for what he has achieved and for introducing new technologies while doing this films. The overall story of the prequels is a great one too. Nonetheless, for me StarWars needs to be character driven stories, and the prequels weren't.

 

I cringed when I realized the architecture and spaceship design were nothing like the OT and in fact, made it seem as if it had taken place AFTER the OT. That's my biggest gripe but I learned to look past that eventually and enjoy the PT.

 

The cringe moment was whinny tosche station Luke...oh wait...that was ot....ok...then... lamo fight between ob1 and vader...oh wait...

I like pt...duel of fates is the second most emotional moment in all sw for me

 

Episode III features a lot of cringe moments, but the worst by far are Anakin's lines on Mustafar. It was the key piece of the prequels, but ended up hitting the nail to the coffin.

 

Absolutely no cringe moment.
I love the prequels much more than the OT because they are graphically better and the story is way more solid.
Lightsabers are more realistics, fights are choregraphically beautiful (especially the Maul/QuiGon and of course the Anakin/Obiwan), the music is simply enormous, Padme is over-cute, Lloyd perfect for a 9-years-old, Pernilia August is a moving mother, Qui Gon impressive, Mace better than Yoda in terms of "grandmastering", Palps is a gorgeous bastard played by a masterful actor and Christensen played a convincing Anakin after all. Don't forget a good CGI for aliens (Neimodians, Grievous) or droids/droidekas/robots when compared to the Cantina scene in ANH.
One regret: the plot could have matched the OT plot on more points. Some mistakes here - but what movie has zero mistakes?

 

The top prequel cringe moment for me was that bit when adult fans bullied a 10-year-old child out of acting and trashed George to the point he walked away.

Other than that, honestly nothing. I love these films just as I love the OT and the artery clogging cheesiness in these films never once put me off.

 

Agreed @Lord Neasham
The point is: who really need a therapy ? the ones who quietly can do with entertaining movies that - without any doubt - suffer a lot of weaknesses, or the ones that complain loud on the web, open threads where they ask for therapy, just to shout to the whole world that they don't like this or that?

For my part, I do not feel any need to claim publicly what I love or what I hate. I'm calm about my tastes. I don't see why I should open a thread about a therapy because I find the mango has a detestable taste (which is true, I cannot eat that frute). I don't search on the internets of the web some other persons that would want to cry loud with me, and give me good reasons to persevere in my hate.
And, above all, I absolutely DO NOT CARE that other persons love the mango. I give them mine, willingly


So. Who really need a therapy?

 

Anakin you're breaking my heart... favorite line in Ep3.

Second, my little green friend...

 

DAT FREAKING MOMENT Palps puts his hood over his head and turns into The Emperor..... AMAGAAAAAD!

 

The PT to me is such a mixed bag. On one hand, they are terrible movies. Awful dialogue, CGI, characterization is mixed and really were just not very well planned out. They showcase the follies of GL, in that he should be an ideas/ production guy and NOT someone to write the story. The proof is in the pudding as the novels for the PT to me are vastly superior. Heck, ROTS novelization is my favorite SWs book. But to be fair, Matthew Stover is awesome. But I digress.

The one bit of praise I will give for those movies is the world. The PT is awesome. Naboo(which should have been Alderaan. I am just saying), Coruscant, Mustafar etc. So many really cool worlds. All of which were unique in their design. They added an immense sense of scale; that the galaxy far far away was that: a galaxy.

If anything, what would have made the PT better is had they chosen to focus on the Clone Wars. We had this war referenced all the way back in the OT and GL didn't even bother to showcase the conflict?! That's such BS. In my view, the PT should have started with ATC (done MUCH better) and have an episode devoted to the war and then ROTS. And also, have the MC be Obi-wan. Anakin, to me; is a hard character to write and really to separate the PT, while also giving it connective tissue to the OT, Obi-wan should have been the MC. For Obi-wan is the Merlin of SWs.

So overall, I get why people do not like the PT and I as sure do not like them, minus ROTS. But to me, I have so much respect for the ambition put forward. And really, given how Legends took full advantage of that era and we got stuff, like TCW; I say that the PT very much was a double-edged sword. They gave us awful movies, but also managed to solidify themselves with exterior material. And good stuff too, like ShatterPoint.

 

You make some really great points. 1. GL tried to get others to direct the prequels (TPM) but no one at the time was brave enough because its a huge undertaking. Star Wars is iconic, its why we have trilogies. Who in their right mind would think they could TOP ANH. Making a good film isn't as easy as people think. For example; Ron Howard was approached by GL and he said, George those are your movies and Spielberg didn't want to touch it too. Some people think Spielberg is one of the greatest directors that ever lived and he wouldn't touch it with a 10 foot pole. Yet he pushed/encouraged JJ to make TFA... go figure that. Spielberg refused to direct TESB and ROTJ sighting the director's guild. GL was done with directing after ANH; he had no choice but to direct the PT himself. I forgive him for his faults because he didn't direct a film since ANH.

2. If the PT started with AOTC maybe we would have gotten a better film and seen much more of the CW.

3. OB1 is my favorite character making him the MC would have been great but GL has stated over and over again the PT is Anakin's story.

4. There are great moments in the PT I tend to over look the bad ones. The books do supplement the PT and dives deeper into the lore.

 

That I can see. Also, nobody really challenged GL and I find it weird why GL felt the need to rush the movies. I doubt anyone would have questioned that, if it was to make the movies better. As for as GL saying it was Anakin's storyline, that is all well/ fine. But I argue that the same effect could have been accomplished by having Obi-wan being the POV character. Because, imagine if ATC opened up with an older Luke consulting a Holocron recovered and it was Obi-wan, telling the story of how Anakin fell.


And really, the entire PT is told in flashback of Obi-wan/ Anakin Skywalker's partnership and Anakin's fall to the dark side. As for great moments of the PT, definitely; Duel of the Fates to me remains one of the best battles in the series and I dare anyone not to get hyped when listening to that song. And the OST for ROTS/ Order sixy six's scene is utterly perfect, satisfying lovers and haters of the PT given how poetic it was.

 

Loved Darth Maul, hated Count Dooku
Loved the pod race, hated the Geonosis clone battle
Loved all the music in Phantom Menace, hated the lightsaber fight while swinging over a river of lava
Loved Qui Gonn, hated Yoda
Loved watching Palpatine manipulate Anakin, hated the cartoonish shield generators the battle droids used against the Gungans
Loved the new starships but hated the Republic Star Destroyers
Loved Jake Lloyd in all his scenes with Pernella August, hated the way we fans ruined his life
Loved Jango Fett, hated the two headed pod race announcer

But...

To answer your question...

What was the ONE unforgivable moment in the prequels?

C-3PO's head on a battle droid

 

When I discovered that people are still going out of their way to bash the Prequel Trilogy after eighteen years. I have never encountered a fandom that went out of its way to bash a series of movies and try to convince "everyone" that they are bad . . . because they didn't like them.