SPECULATION Qui-Gon Jinn originally intended to be evil?

I new here too. Welcome. I highly doubt there was ever a FULL intention for Qui Gon to be a mole or Palpatine agent. That
Being said, i always kind of thought that the allusion to, through no obvious means, Qui Gon possibly fouling up on purpose, led to the creation of Dookus character. He is pretty much the flipside of Qui Gon in every way. Great speculation by the way.

 

I don't know that Qui Gon was necessarily intended to be evil or in league with the Sith, however I think he did represent a school of thought that recognized the inherent flaws in the Jedi Code. I wish that this had been fleshed out a bit more, because it seemed like Lucas started to set that up in TPM and then just dropped it after that.

It would certainly have provided a more solid and compelling reason for Anakin to have been so susceptible to the dark side, had he had some more extensive exposure to Qui Gon's point of view before Qui Gon died. Just enough to get him into that "a little knowledge is a dangerous thing" area where his lack of context for Qui Gon's views could easily be exploited by Palpatine.

 

Never thought about this that way!
It would be interesting plot and there will be a reason for Maul being so underdeveloped.
The jump to the AOTC is quite big. TPM starts in this idylic mood we knew from Obi-wan's stories in ANH, The Old Republic with righteous Jedi in it's service as protectors, going to investigate this mischief, find Anakin and in the end realize, that there are Sith on the loose after millenia by defeating a Sith apprentice.
Later we jump into AOTC with almost adult Anakin, learning that the galaxy isn't that paradise Obi-wan told us about (aside from Clone Wars and bureacracy),
there are deflecting Jedi and lower levels of Coruscant are hell on Eart.... Coruscant. Full of deathsticks.
I wonder, how will the first episode be with darker mood and the plot of overthrowing the republic by the Sith already going hard.

Never understood this plot of Trade Federation blocking innocent planet because of higher taxes and decimating it in the Nazi style.
Even if it was Palpatine's doing.

 

Great idea, Angelman! And you explained it very well. I gave your post a "like" even though I disagree with everything you wrote. Here's my take -

• Qui-Gon was the man. Not only did he get all the good lines of dialog ("Your focus determines your reality", "Don't center on your anxieties", "I can only protect you. I can't fight a war for you"), but he totally personified everything Jedi when he knelt in meditation with Darth Maul pacing like a tiger on the other side of the barrier.
• Qui-Gon followed the Force. Not the Jedi Council, but the Force. When placed in a situation where he had to choose between obeying the Council and obeying the will of the Force, Qui-Gon never hesitated. This might seem like a minor point, but it's actually a very important one, because...
• The Jedi were evil. Just as evil as the Sith, although in a different, more disguised way. Mace Windu was ready to forcefully take control of the Senate "to ensure a peaceful transition of power" from democracy to Jediocracy. He made himself judge, jury, and tried to make himself executioner of the legally elected Supreme Chancellor. How is that any different from what the Sith do to seize power? Young Anakin was a red flag to the Council because he loved his mother and didn't want to lose her. That's sick if you really think about it. Only sociopaths who don't love their mothers make good Jedi? Yoda and Ben lied to Luke about his parentage in order to recruit him to fight their war for them. Luke couldn't be told the truth because he wouldn't want to assassinate his own father. I don't think the Jedi tried to be evil, but when you're co convinced your side is the "good" side and that the "good" side must prevail at all costs, then it's easy to justify using evil means in your fight for good. Eventually the Jedi became the very evil they were fighting, all so they could hang on to their power. Qui-Gon was the only Jedi in the saga whose allegiance was to the Force, not a warring faction of the Force.
• Yes, Qui-Gon insisted on training Anakin against the wishes of all his "superiors" because the only "superior" he recognized was the Force. It ended badly for the Jedi, but it ended well for the Force. When the two sides of the Force are locked forever in a kill-on-sight struggle, when no cooperation is possible between the passions of the Dark Side and the selflessness of the Light Side, then the Force is out of balance. Conventional geek wisdom says Anakin brought balance to the Force by eliminating both the Jedi and the Sith, balancing the equation. But I believe the Force was out of balance because it was irreparably split into factions, and no one could reach the true potential of the Force without combining both selflessness and passions. Selflessness, because the Force binds all living things, and passion, because the Force binds all living things. Anakin cleared the way for something truly awesome to appear in Episode VII - a Force user not limited by a dogmatic faction that denies the complete experience.
• As for being oblivious to everything that goes on, okay, maybe he was oblivious to the threat the Jedi faced. But that's because he didn't give a blast about whether the Jedi continued controlling the Senate and living in luxury in their temple on the Capital. He only cared about doing the will of the Force, and if the will of the Force led the Jedi to lose all the prestige and privilege they had accumulated over the centuries, so be it.

I think Qui-Gon was the best Jedi there was. He alone, of all the Jedi, was able to see a larger point of view than the "us versus them" mania that lead to decades of war and suffering throughout the Galaxy. Qui-Gon's refusal to go along with the Council meant he never got a seat on the Council, but I don't think he cared about rank and accolades. He only cared about the Force.

 

Uselessness? He saved Jar Jar's life! Oh, wait...

 

Or not!!! I hoped Qui Gonn had experienced the darkside.

 

GODDAMNIT, that would have been a great plot twist. Imagine if Qui Gon simply replaced Count Dooku in the second movie? ****!!! The prequels have so many areas which could have been mindblowing if they were simply twisted a certain way.