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Rey Solo

Discussion in 'Star Wars: The Last Jedi' started by McDiarmid, Jul 23, 2017.

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3 Trilogies,3 great women,Grandmother,Mother,Daugther,Padme,Leia,Rey.

Poll closed Aug 29, 2018.

  1. Yes,I think its perfection

    37 vote(s)
    17.2%

  2. Yes I like it

    28 vote(s)
    13.0%

  3. I am not sure is it good or bad

    32 vote(s)
    14.9%

  4. No,I want Luke had daughter

    39 vote(s)
    18.1%

  5. No,I want Rey to be not in that familly

    90 vote(s)
    41.9%
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  1. McDiarmid

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    Paradoxically, only now more than 4 years after the release I watched Rian Johnson's "Looper".

    Casualy scrolled TLJ wikipedia page, found Rian Johnson mentioning "Looper" 2012,

    Went to metacritics..and wow- can't remember last time I sough the film with metacritics level of--- " universal acclaim" .

    I sit down and watched...

    God, Rian Johnson is genius, and something more, unseen abbility to construct story arcs...loops, a links in the past manifested in the present, explanation of them..was he chosen to dirrect ep VIII. because of this his talent?

    TLJ needs to adress such matters, mysteries from the past and their consequences manifested in the present.. man is a genius, story "arc" genius.

    My expectations of ep VIII are now even higher.
     
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    Leia's mistakes, that she admits and wishes she could change, were not telling Ben that he was related to Vader and then sending him away. Yet now you think that after finding her long lost daughter/daughter she dumped on Jakku, she's willing to act in exactly the same way with her?

    Give me strength.

    And of course she needs to recognise her - if she doesn't it will contradict the new canon (and old).
     
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    @MagnarTheGreat: the idea of Leia sending Han to fetch Ben as a political move is just about the most disgusting thing i can imagine. : o p
     
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    It's like he's stretching to find ways of explaining this supposed psychopathic Leia concept...
     
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    i have a lot of strong opinions about Leia's A+ parenting (and none of them good ~ hahaha), but even in the end of Bloodline we see what the threat of any harm to Ben does to her. she completely breaks down sobbing incoherently and she doesn't even know if he's in trouble yet.
    this is a very complex relationship. she intended to destroy Starkiller and she knew the only hope of saving her son if he happened to be on it was to send Han to try to bring him home.
     
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    MagnarTheGreat hates the character of Kylo, maybe that's why he's a hardcore "Rey is the daughter of Leia and Hand" even if it's doesn't work with the canon and would create huge plot holes, he don't want that guy to be the only child of Han and Leia.
     
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    However, if this move was another one desperate action, to trigger Ben's salvation, it was justiffied.

    Force is strong in Leia. She certainly did not want Han to die in attempt to bring their son home, but she felt this moment is the only chance to turn the tide.

    Kylo was about to kill his father, it was only question of time and place.Snoke has ordered this, Leia must have felt it.

    Lea, and I can not stress importance of this-a Force sensitive mother and wife, has chosen the moment this inevitability to happen , in a circumstances that will maximise the chances of triggering Ben to turn back, by placing a seed of his salvation.
     
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    So she can sense all this (she can't by the way), but she can't sense her own daughter's presence when she is standing right in front of her?

    M'kaaaaaaaay.
     
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    She cant sense?

    By dressing Royal blue Alderaan insignia of royalty she said to everyone who wants to see- little princess, Rey.

    For a gazilionth time (I like this yours number)...Leia is master of deception of hiding her feelings for a greater good.

    In TFA dicitionary by Pablo Hidalgo, Luke is obviously impressed by this hers abbility that even he does not possess.

    She fights Snoke in a grand galactic chess match in the way Force sensitive beings do.

    Episode IX should have been Leia's in which all mastery fo her strategy and fight against Snoke (whih incluided hiding one of her children fropm even a thoughts) would be honored, but I hope this will be shown in ep. VIII now.
     
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    But decided not to tell Rey?

    When under interrogation by her enemies. Not when she has a chance to save her son & supposed long lost child!
    And besides, you're saying on the one hand she is telling everyone she is Rey's mum by wearing a blue dress but on the other hand, must keep it quiet?
    Which one?!

    Her being sensitive and intuitive doesn't help your baseless theories, my friend. It hinders them. Sorry.
     
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    Again dissection, I consider this as an inability to colegialy reply in a way of debate.

    To tell Rey what? That she just sough her brother killed her father..?..Rey must be sent to fight for survival of them all, to be trained by Luke, and not put in mourning shock- in this particular moment.

    Besides, I will reveal a big secret: Rey already feels toward Leia as she is like a mother she never had.
    If she felt for Han so, she feels it for Leia to.
     
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    Firstly, it' "saw" not "sough" - funny, @Force Nun used the same incorrect spelling....

    Anyway, you just said Leia wore her blue dress to show that she is with her daughter? Yet now you're saying she is supposed to be keeping it a secret? Have you actually thought this through?

    I'd love to read your full synopsis of Rey's backstory and why Leia does what she does - rather than all these disjointed snippets that contradict each other...

    *Sigh*.
     
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    Leia honors her Royalty by wearing Alderaan insignia in front of Rey , it is not important does Rey fully understand the mening of this in that moment.

    It is a protocol.Honoring it is above personal level.

    If you reveal a child that was living in jungle, and you know for him to be a Royalty, and child even can not comprehend what Royalty means, would you approach to this child as a royalty( presuming you are royalty to)

    A. wait for child to understand the meaning of all of this?

    or will you

    B. Honor royalty protocol emediately regardless

    Do you respect royalty(his and yours) in case A, or B?
     
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    [​IMG]
     
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    By wearing Alderaan royalty insignias which she wears only if Royal tradition demands it, in front of Rey,

    1.Lea has shown she understands who Rey is.

    2. Rey has Royal origins to.

    You can turn this gazillion times up and down it does not change this 2 facts.

    [​IMG]
     
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    But you're saying it is vital that Rey doesn't find out she is Leia's daughter (for some reason).
    Wouldn't it be a risk for Leia to wear her ceremonial dress, which you say obviously shows she is her mother, as then someone else could see it and say to Rey:
    "I didn't know Leia was your mum!" And she'd be like 'Whaaaaaat?!".

    Ahhhh, why I am even entertaining this discussion?!
     
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    Do I must tell everything? Sometimes I think you are knowing it somehow that I could be one that knows it and you want to find out everything and be sure it is or not.

    It is.

    Snoke will exploit this, of course.Its for the story.

    Kylo will got the information first from Snoke, than he will disarm Rey in a critical moment , telling to her they are brother and sister. It would look as jet another Leia's faliure, after she didn't tell to Ben that Vader was his grandfather in time...but the Force thinks different.

    ..........................................
    Snoke blames him for his failure, than Kylo mentions how came this girl has such power? How can it be?.
    Snoke than opens to Kylo, telling him:

    "When I found you, I saw raw, untamed power
    and beyond that, something truly special.
    ....
    a girl that was coming after you,
    she is your sister.

    Snoke than sends Kylo on a mission to hunt down the girl and bring her to him , he also orders him to kill Leia, as a form of apology to him.

    there , I was provoked.
     
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    @McDiarmid where did you learn that it is royal tradition etc to dress the way she did, what is the source for this?
     
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    Snoke already tried that but in TFA & it wasn't for a nice family reunion between Rey & Ben. More likely it would have involved Snoke doing something rather unpleasant to Rey as a way of both punishing Ben for having compassion for this scavenger & to reinforce to him how powerful the Darkside is. This whole Leia knows who Rey is but doesn't tell her is just making Leia look very uncaring from Rey's POV now if you want Rey to join Snoke (Which is never going to happen) then deliberate hiding the fact that she meet her long looked for mother because of her mother didn't think it was a good idea then this looks like a great way to go about it.
     
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