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Rey Solo

Discussion in 'Star Wars: The Last Jedi' started by McDiarmid, Jul 23, 2017.

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3 Trilogies,3 great women,Grandmother,Mother,Daugther,Padme,Leia,Rey.

Poll closed Aug 29, 2018.

  1. Yes,I think its perfection

    37 vote(s)
    17.2%

  2. Yes I like it

    28 vote(s)
    13.0%

  3. I am not sure is it good or bad

    32 vote(s)
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  4. No,I want Luke had daughter

    39 vote(s)
    18.1%

  5. No,I want Rey to be not in that familly

    90 vote(s)
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    Next time you watch this scene, have a look at Leia's face just before she wraps her arms around Rey. It doesn't look at all like she's feeling sadness or loss but rather relief and gratitude.
     
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    Just to add to this.

    @McDiarmid Believes that Leia is the one who put Rey on Jakku & knows who she is when they meat at the end of TFA.

    @MagnarTheGreat Believes that Leia lost Rey in some so far unexplained accident & has the ring as a memory of her lost daughter..

    Is this correct or have i missed anything?

    Personally if Rey is a Solo (Which I still think hasn't been ruled out completely it's just unlikely) then the @MagnarTheGreat option is the way they will go .
     
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    Indeed.In a next scene Leia is thinking at desktop,she is shaken,but she is..different,than,C3PO awakes her from thoughts as they assembled the map to Luke.
    Last night I rewatched TFA after half year.That moment when Kylo interrogates Rey and stumb on Han Solo in her head.. briefly Ren is very surprised,its unexpected for him,than he relativises his own find by neglecting other possibility than she has fallen on Han's charm.
     
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    Presumed dead through some means (accident or otherwise) is my preferred route over a story like Episode VI/III where Luke and Leia were taken away at birth and the parents didn't know. Though they could do the latter, I just think the former is better for Leia and Han and Ben's story as well as Rey's.
     
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    There is A version of Rey Solo theory that Leia and Luke conspired to hide Rey all other believe sve is long dead, and B version of theory that Rey was abducted and it all went wrong,all believe her to be long dead.
    I do not align on any of those particularily since there are evidences for both.
     
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    Thanks for the reply & i have to agree that if they do go the Rey Solo route this would be much better then having Leia be the on who put Rey on Jakku as I can't see a way of doing this with out wrecking Leia's character.
    & I'm sure you have mentioned this some where but do you think Leia knows who Rey is at the end of TFA or is still unsure of exactly who this girl is & when do you expect the Rey Solo reveal to occur in TLJ.
    --- Double Post Merged, Nov 12, 2017, Original Post Date: Nov 12, 2017 ---
    Ahh ok thanks for the clarification . It's always good to debate with you on this topic & just wanted to make sure i hadn't misinterpreted your position on Rey Solo.
     
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    Presumed dead Rey Solo problems:

    - No one ever mentions her (in pivotal moments where they surely would (when Ben turned or indeed how Rey reminds them of their daughter) when they see Rey or in novels that tell us more about history of the Solo family.
    - No one sensed her death (or saw a body) and yet decided not to look for her. It is long established that Leia in particular can sense the loss of close loved ones.
    - No one, Leia especially, recognises Rey when they meet her - through the Force or otherwise.
    - Daisy said that she thought TFA answered the story about her parents and yet also said that she clearly wasn't a Solo (in TFA). Ergo, the evidence in TFA doesn't point to Rey Solo and that she certainly wasn't revealed as one.
    - JJ said that her parents were not in TFA, later to clarify that Rey's parents were not revealed to her: so Leia didn't recognise her and likely didn't suspect her as her daughter.

    These points have never been answered. Ergo, Rey Solo is either extremely unlikely or if true, will be a huge plot hole.
     
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    I agree the profound Solo family tragedy,which has not been told,and upon which Rey Solo plot is based("something has gone wrong") will be something extraordinary.
    My research and read have brought me to strange corners and elusive clues.
    Bloodline novel,the book supposedly not mentioning anything...
    ....,example.Leia has been abducted.She is brought to criminal boss Rinnrivin Dee,who offers her unique bottle od Alderaan wine,Toniray.While she enjoys the wine he informs Leia that the video recording exists of her killing Jabba the Hutt.That she is known as a" Hutt Slayer".Meaning she is N.1 enemy of the Hutts..
    Rey lives at Niima outpost.Which is named upon late Niima the Hutt,who has lived on Jakku and was amongst others specialist for abduction of kids.
    ..the "Hutt Slayer"gives nothing to story.Nor the "Niima the Hutt"gives to Jakku.
    Together ,it ,theorethically,gives possibility that Hutts revenged to Leia kidnappng her girl.

    Strange if Hutts didn't retaliated to Solo family,because Bloodline canonizes Leia is N.1 enemy of the Hutts,combining Han Solo's "esteem"amongst the Hutts,Solo family should be their prime target in the galaxy.
     
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    The Hutt's were huge rivals with Rinnrivin and his cartel. Leia killing Jabba the Hutt, the most infamous Hutt of them all is a big deal to them, hence the name, "Huttslayer". And the... (I think it's a holovid) that Rinnrivin gives Leia which she then gives back to him is implanted with a tracking device which is basically used as the Catalyst for Leia finding out about a massive guerrilla army which would later become known as the First Order. I don't see how you can say it serves no purpose to the story.
     
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    The fact Leia is Hutt Slayer(to the point Hutts tried to destroy all coppies of that video recording since it compromised them ),apparently has no any consequences for the Leia so far we know about.Why was it brought in canon?
     
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    You can literally ask why anything in canon is canon. It's just an extra layer to Leia's character. Not EVERYTHING has to have a consequence or a tie in.

    Look who knows, maybe Bloodline does provide clues to Rey's parentage. After all Rian Johnson worked with Claudia Grey pretty closely on the making of the novel. Maybe he wanted to make sure certain things were or weren't included. But to say that the only reason why they nicknamed Leia "Huttslayer" was to give a little wink wink at where Rey lives on Jakku is kinda silly in my opinion.
     
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    actually we know from Claudia Gray that the only thing Rian Johnson contributed was the napkin warning.
    talk about something to make people sit up and speculate. : o O
    but i'm thinking now it was Holdo.
     
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    That's right, I remember finding out about that a while ago, must've slipped my mind. Thanks for the reminder.

    But... I'm sure there will be people who claim, "Well obviously Claudia Gray wouldn't say that Rian came in to drop little clues about Rey's parentage".
     
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    This is fiction..Just exploring creative possibilities:

    Untold Solo family tragedy reconstruction,version 1.by McDiarmid based on known story elements:

    15.years before TFA Supreme leader Snoke conspired the abduction of most special Force sensitive creature he has found,the young 4 years old second child of Leia Organa and Han Solo.
    The executor was Niima the Hutt. A female Hutt warlord operating on Jakku.Niima had from before its ties with the Empire,with the Galius Rax,she was kidnapping children for him to be trained as soldiers.The Hutts had also a personal reason,hate for Leia who killed mightiest Hutt,Jabba,as well as hating Han Solo.
    The child has been kidnapped,and Solo's "hired" best person to try to find their child .Jedi Master Luke Skywalker.
    Luke have located Niima,and killed Niima by beheading her, with the Light saber.
    By then traumatized child has already been processed by Niima who used to erase memory and individuality of its victims,making them slaves.
    Luke ,however there learned of existance of menacing telepathic Snoke.
    He decided,to make all believe he failed,that the child was already dead,to protect her from Snoke,while believing older child,Ben,is strong enough to resist and that he would be able to hold him on Light side.
    Luke left the girl on Jakku,assigning his old fiend Lorr san Tekka to discretly assure minimum od her safety.


    New facts:
    On Jakku,there were 2 sacred villages.
    One of Lorr san Tekka.destroyed.
    The other one.Built by strange group that warships Hutt as deity.
    The village is built around gilded and bejeweled cranial part of the body of Niima the Hutt,after she was by the legend,killed by unindentiffied "bounty hunter"
     
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    Soon the secret will no longer be kept and the talking around it will stop... :)

    The Mirror - Star Wars' new star Daisy Ridley: Dad praises ''extraordinary'' daughter after she lands Episode VII leading role (May 1, 2014)

    Harrison Ford: “[My favorite action scene is] the sword fight with Rey and Kilo Ren. Fantastic visual storytelling.” (December 4, 2015)

    Harrison Ford: “[If I weren’t Han Solo] I’d like to be Daisy Ridley’s character in the new one. [She’s] awesome… and cute.” (December 15, 2015)

    Daisy Ridley: “Uh, actually, [my best Harrison Ford story] was probably when he met my dad. He was kind of confused because they’re sort of alike and I hadn’t told him.” “They have the earring and the white hair and the glasses.” “Yeah, yeah [my dad’s Harrison Ford].” (October 11, 2017)

    Daisy Ridley: “[Harrison Ford reminds me of my dad.] They both have an earring and are ****ing awesome.” "[Harrison gave me a hug and called me adorable on set and I felt at home from that point on.]" “[During a set visit, my dad asked Mark Hamill, ‘So, who do you play, then?’] (Elle U.K. magazine December 2017)
     
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    HAHA... charming! great post!
     
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    My thoughts exactly. I think it was Holdo as well
     
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    And for disbelievers who think Bloodline novel is incompatible with Rey Solo,-entire novel is silent about Solo family past,and tone is depressive implicating crysis of the family from before,jet clearly there IT is ,a consistency clue of untold past tragedy:

    Remember,this is talk 6 years before episode VII.Before Ben has fallen to the Dark side!

    Leia:"Someday."
    Han:"Someday."

    " The words sounded Like a promise.But Leia couldn't make herself believe that day would ever realy come.....and she knew Han couldn't either. Someday was the Sun dissapearing behind a cloud, a morning lost to darkness long before nights should have come."

    Bloodline,page 96.

    Profound tragedy from the past referenced."

    "Morning was lost to darkness long before nights should have come"
    -Leia about family situation 6 years before TFA,while Ben was still training with Luke.
     
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    Original post was today suplemented with new find from novel Bloodline.

    Absolutely recommended to read,especially for those who want to "bet ":)
     
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    Interesting that Holdo is from Gatalenta, just like Leia’s good friend Tai-Lin Garr, who acts in a rather suspect fashion throughout the novel.

    I personally thought it was Garr before, but I’m leaning towards it being a partnership between the Gatalentans (Gatalentines?) now.
     
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