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Rey Solo

Discussion in 'Star Wars: The Last Jedi' started by McDiarmid, Jul 23, 2017.

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3 Trilogies,3 great women,Grandmother,Mother,Daugther,Padme,Leia,Rey.

Poll closed Aug 29, 2018.
  1. Yes,I think its perfection

    17.2%
  2. Yes I like it

    13.0%
  3. I am not sure is it good or bad

    14.9%
  4. No,I want Luke had daughter

    18.1%
  5. No,I want Rey to be not in that familly

    41.9%
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  1. McDiarmid

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    She knows dead end is inevitable and still continues?
    Someday was the Sun dissapearing behind a cloud, a morning lost to darkness long before nights should have come."

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    Because she can't leave her job,and Han can't his(btw she barely tolerates her job,soon both leave their job)?

    ..........Decembar 13
     
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    Leia doesn't say that. It's the voice of the author foreshadowing what is to come for Leia.
     
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    Leia is coming to the bittersweet realization that her life isn't the idyllic arrangement she hoped for; they were never going to have that because of who they are.
    but they stay together and keep working at it because they're not going to throw their love away just because they have busy schedules.

    it's only Ben's fall that finally breaks them apart. that's the great grief of their life.
     
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    But wait,she has already sent Ben to Luke years before for which she would one day admitt was when she lost both Han and Ben.Now you interpret her job is what will cause she lose them.But ,certainly politicians have homes to and see kids at least once a week,even month would do.Han has also responsibility,because why is he not with Leia?
    Can't you see something doesn't compute in here?.This is disfunctional eroded family,scaterred by something that already happened before the time of Bloodline.
    I am realy surprised people who read books can't see this in plain sight.
     
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    you are taking Leia's line too literally. in TFA she tells Han that in hindsight that she realizes that by sending Ben away she broke up their family before they even knew they were broken. she's saying maybe if she hadn't sent Ben away, they could have protected him--or at least they would have been together when he fell.

    her grief is about not being there for Ben when he needed her the most. it's why she literally breaks down sobbing at the end of the book.
    she has put her career ahead of her son for all these years and now she knows it's coming back to bite her.
    it's her saving grace in the novel, frankly.
    she realizes that she has made a huge irrevocable error in her parenting.
    with Ben. not with some imaginary other child for whom we have zero evidence.
     
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    There is, unfortunately no saving grace for Leia and Han if they leaved Ben alone to be consumed by his grief and lonelines, feeling ostracized. More so because in Bloodline we see they are thinkig of it,jet breaking, aknowledging that darkness is prevailing, and despite this still they are continuing in their way.

    Is it because "who they are", meaning bad egoistic parents , with destiny to fail?
    Or what I think, they were already exhausted by grief and fight to compensate loss by unspeakable tragedy, exhausted and disoriented.

    I simply can't believe Leia and Luke have been continued in new trilogy so low..

    Perhaps the most significant implication of Rey Solo will be that it explains why were Han and Lea almost zombie-like parents, judging from their emotional (more than physical) separation.It was an earthquake that happened"in the morning" and the darkness have fallen on the family as Leia says"long before its time".This will justify their behavior.They have been struck early on.

    So if Rey would not be lost daughter of Solo's, than Leia and Han would end as failed parents, who made mistake after mistake, only to die while their son, their only child never having chance to see them again in a light and love. Catastrophy.
    Why are they making Solo film afteral?

    That is impossible. Simply impossible. I know people think I am radical but Rey Solo is only possibility. Other possibility is practical beheading of Han Solo's and Leia's legacy in the new canon.
     
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    they're not grief-stricken, they're self-absorbed.

    kinda exactly just like the son they raised.
     
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    But by this they would be no better than Snoke.

    They should be his conscious victims, heroes, and here should be well of their justiffication, not in self-absorbing which makes them dumb prey in a bigger evolutionary arena of self-absorbing characters.

    Is self-absorbing justification?
     
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    now you're starting to understand the true problem of what's gone wrong in this family.
     
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    Isn't this sad if true?
     
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    it's very sad. why do you think so many of us are on the #SaveBenSolo train?

    Leia and Han didn't mean to do this. it's something that happened. just like Lor Tekka said to Ren on Jakku.

    now it's up to all of them to fix it.
     
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    Exactly - everything we see take place in the ST is as much the fault of the former heroes as it is down to Snoke. The new republic failed to learn from the mistakes of the past. Han and Leia failed as parents. Luke failed in his training of Ben. As Lucas always said, the ST would be about the difficulty in building the new republic and maintaining the peace. Without this "sad story" there wouldn't be a ST. The heroes had to be taken down a peg or two for evil to be able to rise once again.
     
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    If there was this (fabricated) tragedy you speak of that is sooo important to Han and Leia then why did they write bloodline the way they did? If there was a story so integral to the main plot why not wait and tell that story after the release of TLJ? It would be a story more relevant and one that would probably draw a larger audience. (I'm not knocking bloodline I'm currently reading and enjoying it.)

    It just doesn't add up. The hints at such a tragedy are so small and contrite anyway that the average movie goer (which is the vast majority) would completely miss the references, thus alienating a large portion of the audience. Its a great, imaginative and well thought out theory that would be brilliant as a fanfic but it just doesn't work with the main source material. The amount of plot holes are astonishing and there is no evidence to support it only conjecture.
     
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    For a brief moment I was tempted to say Han and Leia were so self-consumed they don't talk of It....:p

    Anyway reading Bloodline did you noted that you know what is going with Kylo no more than you know about "fabricated"tragedy.(almost nothing)
    Or,for instance Millennium Falcon is missing,not a word.
    There is silence,strange one.
     
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    Ben Solo took it for a joyride and lost it. Han got mega pissed at him and lashed out. This was the final straw for Leia and she decided to send him to Luke.

    See, we can all write trashy fanfic to suit our theories.
     
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    you forgot the part where Ben did it to impress the two twin twi'leks he had aboard. : o p
     
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    Spoiler alert!!
     
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    Nice,why is than not mentioned anything ?

    How about that Millennium is not mentioned for same reason as "theory" girl near by on Jakku?

    Just don't coincidence it ...this will be trashy.
     
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    I'm only halfway through bloodline so I can't comment but the content of bloodline is superfluous to the argument anyway. It won't have any effect on the main plotline of the movies.

    The purpose of the EU is to flesh out the stories that have or are already being told in the main saga, not to reveal information or key plot points that aren't alluded to in the source material. They are effectively 'bonus features' now, nothing more.
     
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    With that I couldn't agree.
     
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