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Rey Solo

Discussion in 'Star Wars: The Last Jedi' started by McDiarmid, Jul 23, 2017.

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3 Trilogies,3 great women,Grandmother,Mother,Daugther,Padme,Leia,Rey.

Poll closed Aug 29, 2018.
  1. Yes,I think its perfection

    17.2%
  2. Yes I like it

    13.0%
  3. I am not sure is it good or bad

    14.9%
  4. No,I want Luke had daughter

    18.1%
  5. No,I want Rey to be not in that familly

    41.9%
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  1. DailyPlunge

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    That's a quote from the novelization and doesn't say Leia sensed Snoke. I'll ask again, has something changed since Pablo's tweet? I can think with my head, can you answer my question without being condescending?
     
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    yours credit.
     
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    As long as the story makes sense: [​IMG]
     
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    Rey is a Solo until proven otherwise from the film or a TLJ film leak. So if you think she is a Skywalker fine. If you think she is no body fine... we'll get the final answer soon enuff.... nuff' said... hehe.
     
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    for those who want to think....

    Novel "Legends of Luke Skywalker".

    Probably the biggest revelation in that book is a village founded by Force sensitive human refugees has maintained Force sensitivity for thousands of years. While we’ve had several known related Force sensitives and references to the Force being passed down family lines.

    This is the first time we’ve seen direct evidence of it being maintained in population over an extended period of time. From this we can infer children born to Force sensitive parents have a high chance of being sensitive themselves.

    That by the logic makes random Rey less probable, since new canon obviously inclines to ancestry born Force sensitivity.
     
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    We've known that force sensitive people are likely to have force sensitive children. Luke/Leia/Ben.... this is far from a "revelation." This doesn't change anything about Rey.
     
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    It changes alot for random Rey expectation.

    It makes so extremly Force sensitive person, as Rey is, highly improbable to be born randomly.

    It puts probability significantly to Rey been strong by its ancestry, by blood ( Skywalkers), since this ancestry born Force sensitivity is "In", as we see, in the new canon.
     
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    What you posted doesn't have anything to do with Rey. Obi-Wan, Mace Windu, Qui-Gon, Ezra... there are plenty of human force users who were strong in various ways who weren't related to other Jedi. There's nothing in canon that says a strong force user has to be related to another strong force user.
     
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    You know ancestry of Ben Kenobi Mace Vindu?Yoda? Whataya know.We are taking about top Force wielders.Not average, which, certainly, could be random.Maybe the top one to,but highly unlikely.

    Reminder..thought you watched Episode 1...why is Qui Gonn Jinn asking Schmi..."who was boy's father?
     
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    Um, that's a perfectly reasonable thing to ask about a child. :D:D:D:D
     
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    Context is everything....

    "You should be very proud of your son. He gives without any thought of reward."
    "Well, he knows nothing of greed. He has..."
    "He has special powers."
    "Yes."
    "He can see things before they happen, that's why he appears to have such quick reflexes. It's a Jedi trait."
    "He deserves better than a slave's life."
    "Had he been born in the republic, we would've identified him early. The Force is unusually strong with him, that much is clear."
    And then the key question - "Who was his father?"

    It's in context of him having force powers, Jedi traits, and unusually strong ones at that.

    Qui-Gon's question is the same as TFA viewers with Rey, naturally...who is the father? How did this happen?

    I would be down with that. It doesn't have to be Luke/Leia, though those are easier ties for drama with Kylo.

    But having her connected as a Kenobi for example, would be great. Or even a Palpatine relative if they want to go the dark route.

    Heck, I was up for Anakin clone or reincarnation - if it was told well. That would've been pretty interesting actually, for SW.
     
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    I really don't understand why people are obsessed with X person has to be related to Y. It's very limiting from a story perspective. Should I love Yoda/Poe/Finn/Han Solo/Obi-Wan less because their parents aren't in the films?
     
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    Rey Solo will feel obvious in retrospect.

    J. J. Abrams: (6:52) “The thing is stories – and not just experiences – I’m – no pun intended – game for both but the truth is that a movie or a TV show when it’s well done and that’s always the ambition – not like a guarantee – but the ambition is to always tell a story that requires like I mentioned – setups and payoffs – there’s machinery that you’re hiding. There’s a story that you’re purposefully telling. For example: <Jaws clip> You watch the scene and what you’re thinking is it’s really a scene about how Brody doesn’t really fit in, he doesn’t understand the knots, he doesn’t understand how to work and live and be on a boat, he’s not someone who’s gonna survive this. And of course this is all setup for the end. <Jaws clip> The idea here of course is the thing that you think is about one thing – this character moment – is really a setup about the end of the movie and it’s obvious to us now in retrospect because we all know it.” “I remember years ago, I was traveling somewhere and I was kind of jet lagged and I got there and was I like so out of it. And I remembered how in Die Hard [that] the character John McClane was given advice. Someone else said to him, ‘When you get to a place just rub your feet on the carpet and it just kind of helps you get rid of jet lag.’ I was like…I’ll try it. So I’m sitting there in my hotel room rubbing my feet on the carpet and I suddenly realize the only reason they did that was that he wouldn’t have his ****ing shoes on later so he’d step on glass! It was a complete setup in the movie and had nothing to do with jet lag. It was just a setup. And I realized that I had bought it hook, line, and sinker. But the thing is those [story] moments, those beats, whether they be technical like that or emotional in terms of what a character is missing – something that he or she doesn’t have [but] desperately wants – these things provide a certain inevitability I think for characters that sometimes games don’t necessarily have.” (February 2013)

    Little moments like the weird look Han gives when she said she bypassed compressor and then Rey thinks to herself, or Rey feeling like Han Solo is the father she never had, or the peculiarly long hug between Leia and Rey, and the two stone ring Leia wears on a traditional mother's ring finger, or the conversation about having to 'deal with it' after Leia expressed regret about sending Ben away, or a myriad of other seemingly little things that are the slightly hidden machinery by who Rey turns out to be.

    A writer takes those first act setups in a first movie to pay them off later on in a future movie.
     
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    The whole point of Rey being random would be to demonstrate that you don’t have to come from a special bloodline to be powerful in the Force
     
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    You did it Magnar! I never doubted you for a second. Wonderful!
     
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    In my eyes random Rey would point nothing since its still space opera,again a grace of superhuman power is got by birth and not personally deserved in life, so pointing nothing considering equality of humans in our real life, ...., while it disrupts legacy and narrative structure of this space opera centered around Skywalker family ,....with only one intention.... to make ReyLo happen ad hook up in a PEGI 12 /13 movie..

    That is why it won't happen(can't happen).
     
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    #ConfirmationBias
     
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    Kylo is mass (patricidal) murdered and anything like Skywalker hair.

    He is failed child that needs redemption in very complex way for it to be plausible aftter killing averything in his path, even if justiffied by beenm seduced by Snoke or any other justiffication..

    In any way Kylo Ren alone does not satissfy prerequisites for this to be Skywalker saga...so ......

     
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    His hair looks perfectly Skywalkerish to me.
     
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    Kylo's black hair is like a black hole set for Skywalkers if he would not be saved...nice Sklywalker saga if he is the only heir of Skywalkers.

     
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