Rey Solo

You will not be so troubled with brown problem if Rey would be blonde, isnt it.

You are like Han Solo at young age, those are only coincidences.

There is no such thing as coincidences in so serrious bussines as making Star Wars (this days).

Grandma, Mom, Daughter.

 

exactly... exactly

also.. apparently Daisy likes apple pie, but neither Hayden Christianson or Natalie Portman do. so that scuppers all the relative theories

 

If Daisy were blonde I wouldn't use that as evidence for her not being a Solo. My argument is that you cannot say her being caucasian and brown haired is evidence for her being Han & Leia's daughter. My point about blonde hair on the previous page was about how most female heroes have brown hair because it is perceived as being more serious and stronger, rather than the sexualised idea of a blonde haired woman - and if appearance (hair) is important for Rey, then that could be why.

For me, Daisy Ridley looks no more like Leia or Padme as she does any other brown haired, white actress in Hollywood.
Now if Keira Knightly played Padme, you might've had a point (yeah I know she kind of did at one stage!) but really, I don't see any great similarities between Daisy and Carrie Fisher or Harrison Ford. Now you can post some Disney-fied cartoons of the 3 women if you like - but that isn't making your point any stronger. Daisy has a very different jaw and set of nashers to Fisher and Ford - and this is clearly toned down in your cartoon above.

The fact is, some people would say that Rey was a Solo regardless of her appearance (ethnicity aside). Heck, people think Finn could be a Skywalker. It's possible. But I bet if Rey were blonde, people would just comment on how Anakin was blonde as a kid and how Luke has pretty much always been a blondey. Or that they're trying to misdirect us.

Now of course, it might end up being the case that Rey is a Solo or Skywalker (yikes!) but let's not sit here and try and compare her eye and hair colour to those of Han & Leia. They could've cast any white actress and passed her off as a Solo & people would accept it. But for me, there is nothing in Rey's appearance (hair and eye colour aside ) that resembles Ford or Leia, for me. Adam Driver on the other hand clearly has a bit of Ford about him.

 

You shold note we already debate about a tip of the iceberg over the mountain of facts that combining represent more than compeeling evidence Rey is of Skywalker/Solo bloodline.

1.Born Force sensitive, not any level of Force sensitivity but a Skywalker level of Force sensitivity(comparable to Ben Solo).
2. Only Rey and Ben Solo have this Raw power in entire galaxy.
3.Natural born mechanic (Skywalker trait)
4.Natural born pilot(Skywalker/Solo trait)
5.Millenium falcon near by
6.Lorr san Tekka near by ( old friend of Luke and Organa royal family, who got a map from Luke Skywalker)
7.Kylo Ren is obsessed with here after even heard about her .
8.Leia hugs her like she knows her, than sends no one else but HER to find Luke..
9.She thinks of Han as a father she never had after short introduction.
10.Brown hair and eyes heroine in 3rd trilogy, entirely, (and unoriginally!) phisically resembling all the bloodline heroines in first 2 trilogies (Shmi, Padme, Leia).
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In fact we should debate about theorethical (however unlikely) scenarios how Rey should not be of Skywalker /Solo bloodline and this to be plausible scenario (and 10, coincidence, points I mentioned above not to came out to be just an abhorent extortionate subliminal teasing of the public and fans).

 

- Was she?
- Luke surprised by her power - maybe beyond Skywalker's?
- Misdirection

- She had to learn to survive on a Junkyard - go figure.
- She learned about ship schematics from a computer and taking ships apart.
- Misdirection

- Maybe she's a Dameron?
- Or maybe she has just been given standard Star Wars hero archetype traits?
- Misdirection

- And?

- And never told them that their missing child was on the planet with him?

- He felt an awakening.
- He hears about something happening beyond his control and is pi$$ed.
- I'd be obsessed with her.
- He only takes an interest when he confronts her.
- Even if there is a slight chance he knows who she is, still doesn't make her a Solo. Why wouldn't he have told her?

- But she doesn't. And they never met before. And she doesn't even suspect Rey is her long lost daughter that she has never spoken of or searched for.

- No other man has shown her kindness.

- And big teeth like the Gungans...

 

I strongly doubt Leia would hug a total stranger that includes snuggling into her neck and not wanting to let go.

Also, there is such a thing as "actions speak louder than words". Leia and Rey didn't have to say anything but it was written all over their faces.

 

a man i had never met hugged me and sobbed into my shoulder and wouldn't let go at his son's funeral. people do things when they're grieving. [shrug]

 

So you're saying Leia knew Rey was her daughter but the audience just weren't told?

 

*saw.

You're isolating the evidence. This isn't a question of the things that point to Rey Solo, it is about what goes against it.
Now sure, we could say that Rey and Ren both being powerful indicates they are siblings. But then we have to get over each and every hurdle that TFA served up:

- Why no mention of Rey?
- Why is no one looking for her?
- Why doesn't Han or Leia recognise her?

If we ignore these questions then yes, it is easier to call her a Solo. But unless these questions are answered satisfactorily in TLJ, then we have ourselves a major problem.

But in response to your point: the Force has awakened in Rey and this is why she is as powerful as Kylo Ren. Why? We do not yet know. But there are many possibilities.

I was kidding about Poe to make a point.

She's learned how to be a good pilot - yes. Sort of a pre-requisite for a Star Wars hero though - and common among Force users/Jedi.

The Force brought it there because Rey was there and Rey is important - part of the same Force destiny building as what happens with the legacy saber - or indeed with Luke in ANH.

- What good did LST do for Rey in staying and dying?
- Why didn't LST tell anyone about Rey?
- LST isn't a Jedi - how good would he be at protecting Rey on such a hostile planet?
- Why would LST know who she is, if the rest don't know?

He's pissed he let Finn get away (when he sensed his hesitancy on Jakku) and then that matters have gone out of his control. He wants to find Luke and yet some scavenger has thwarted him! Grrrrrr!

Do follow this through - are you saying that Leia knows who she is but doesn't say anything to Rey? For what purpose? This makes Leia vile!
She doesn't know her - they can just feel, through the Force, that they have shared a tragedy. Nothing in that hug suggests either know each other beyond what they have been told.

Finn is a friend. Han a father figure - don't be fooled by the gruff exterior. Han bonds with her. He likes her - and she knows it. She doesn't see him as a father but imagines that he could've been like that for her. She could've been what she never had. And if you're saying Ren knows he is her brother, why does he say: You feel like he's the father you never had? You're saying Ren knows at this point. He clearly doesn't. He doesn't even say it as she is about to cut him down later on!

Just to clarify, you realise I was joking right?

 

Yes. You can see the look on Leia’s face when she’s about to wrap her arms around Rey, when she’s just looking at her. It’s not despair but relief, gratitude? Sorry, I can’t seem to think of the right word. The feeling you get when a loved one has gone off to war, months go by and you have no idea if they’re still alive. You start feeling they might be dead when all of a sudden they get off a train, injured but okay.

I’m starting to think that’s what was going through Leia’s mind when she saw Rey.

 

So the huge build up to Rey finding her family is revealed off screen? Or Leia knows but doesn't tell her long lost and presumed dead daughter? Why? You have to at least try and qualify these feelings you get from watching the film...

Don't do drugs, kids.

 

Isn't said child a male and thus, if there is a link with this story, would it not relate to Ben?
Even so, I don't see how you choosing biblical stories that fit your pov is evidence for what has actually taken place.

You Soloists are still dodging the big questions.
Anyone can come up with visual clues that point to her being a Solo. But you HAVE to answer the questions if your theories are to be credible:

- Why wasn't anyone looking for Rey?
- Why was she presumed dead?
- Why didn't anyone recognise her?

 

I'm sure he can do anything you want him to do, my friend.