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SPECULATION Rian Johnson to Step Away from Star Wars?

Discussion in 'Rian Johnson's New Trilogy' started by Use the Falchion, Feb 14, 2019.

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    Internet, please, don't this ever again. Yours truly, my blood pressure.
     
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    And because people continue to learn nothing, people are jumping aboard John Campea's latest "inside scoop" about Star Wars and that Johnson is supposedly gone.

    Friendly reminder that this is how reliable Campea's Star Wars sources are:



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    ...Which is to say, "not very". Kathleen Kennedy just stated that they're going forward, and there's little reason to imagine that they're changing course because reasons.

    Fun fact: Prior to the oustings of Phil Lord, Chris Miller, and Colin Trevorrow there was not a single word about any of them being under fire. If someone is in deep **** at Lucasfilm, then they're not going to let a soul know.
     
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    Campea repeated several times that this is just a scoop, yet people continue to twist his words as if he stated this SCOOP was fact. It's just a scoop and he warned his audience several times that he could not verify the validity of this SCOOP.

    I jumped the GUN when I saw the title of his Youtube broadcast, but after watching the show I understood that it was just a scoop.

    For over 2 years John Campea stated that he knew from his sources that Affleck was done with Batman, yet Affleck continued to say he is still Batman. WE ALL KNOW THE TRUTH NOW... NO HARM DONE...

    If RJ is still with LFL, I'll have no problem with that, but for some reason he departs, I'll be the first ONE to remind everyone I told you so, for now there is no official news, it's just a SCOOP LMFAO.

    Looper is one of my favorite films, I also enjoyed TLJ. Allot of people want to see RJ gone. I'm not one those people, but I'm keeping close watch. I know that KK head of LFL, wants RJ to stay, so much so, she gave him an entire trilogy, with the backlash of TLJ and so many hate it, I wonder if LFL will keep RJ... or are they waiting for the right time to say that he is gone... who knows...
     
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    If he didn't want people to think that it was a fact, then he shouldn't have worded his headline in such a declarative way.

    He was fishing for clicks, and people took the bait. Then he tried to distance himself from saying something by changing his video's headline. That's disingenuous.

    People fall for the exact same nonsense that they did less than three months ago because it lines up with their preconceived notions, and nothing more.

    Also, the Batfleck thing was an open secret after a few months of the initial report. The last we heard from Johnson himself, and from Lucasfilm, is that the movies are still going forward. Once the Avatar sequels are all finished, I wouldn't be surprised if 2028, 2029, and 2030 all have Star Wars movies.

    On an incidental note, here's a take on this situation from a guy that knows his stuff:

     
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    John Campea gave a clear outline of over two years how Affleck lied to the media that he was Batman. If RJ departs LFL, I believe he'll do the same thing. He'll go back to when he first got the scoop.
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    John Campea did not change his headline. It's the same as it was when I first read it.


    Ryan Johnson's Star Wars Trilogy APPEARS to be dead.



     
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    Not the same. His Affleck story didn't hit until Affleck decided that he wasn't going to direct The Batman. There was already blood in the water, whereas Johnson has consistently stated that he's figuring out his movies while working on Lights Out.

    Which was after he changed it.



    That's either disingenuous or shortsighted. I can say the same thing for the conclusion drawn here.
     
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    John Campea isn't disingenuous or shortsighted. If he is wrong about something, he will publicly state that he was wrong. That's why I follow him. Campea has been wrong on several occasions and has publicly stated so numerous times. He is an honest film pundit.

    John Campea is not afraid to say he loves Man of Steel, Batman v. Superman, and Suicide Squad. Films that most people hate and say are bad. Those films are bad but I love them and own them. Just like the Star Wars Prequels...

    BTW, Chris Terrio who co-wrote the screenplay to Batman v. Superman is also working on Star Wars Rise of the Skywalker with JJ Abrams.

    If RJ starts filming a new Star Wars trilogy I'm confident that John Campea will applaud this. He is also a fan of RJ.
     
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    There's really no defending the original head line. That's probably why he changed it. Campea isn't as bad as many other YouTube clickbait merchants and it's even possible he has a couple of sources who fed him this, but it's extremely likely those sources are making educated guesses.

    Given Kennedy's relationship I'd be stunned if RJ parts ways with Lucasfilm. This just keeps popping up because there's a vocal minority desperate to dunk all over people with the news. Rian Johnson made a great Star Wars film that made a load of money, had zero production problems, and was a hit with critics and audiences. Nothing is ever gonna change those facts.
     
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    John Campea constantly emphasizes the SUBJECTIVITY of film. It's fine if I like a film and you dislike it, and vice versa, thats the subjectivity of film. I love Blade Runner, its one of my favorite films. John doesn't like Blade Runner, yet thats fine because thats the subjectivity of film. So for those that hate or dislike TLJ, and want to see RJ gone, and will boycott another RJ Star Wars film, it's fine, thats the subjectivity of film.

    Some people dislike Avenger's Endgame and some people love Joel Shumacher's Batman & Robin... thats the subjectivity of film...

    John was the first film pundit that wasn't ashamed to say he likes Batman v. Superman even though there are apparent problems with the film. He loved Ben Affleck as Batman and heard from sources that he was out as the Batman. He personally wanted Affleck to stay as Batman...

    He also wants RJ to stay on with LFL, because he liked TLJ even though there a few things that he wasn't a fan of.
     
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    I don't think we're attacking Campea. I met him a couple of years ago at Celebration before a Collider event. What he said in the video itself was fine, but it really didn't match the headline. That headline was spreading around the internet before the video even start. Campea knows how the internet works.
     
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    I must have read the headline when it was changed because it's the same headline I read... I definitely see ur point.
     
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    There is no such thing as "just" a "scoop". You can't put those two words together!

    A scoop IS a 'fact' (or a collection of facts), otherwise it's not really a scoop - it's just lies. The word implies that the information is factual.

    When a newspaper gets a 'scoop' it means that they - and ONLY they - have obtained some news and that they are the FIRST to reveal it. It means they've been EXCLUSIVELY given it or are the only ones to have EXCLUSIVELY found it out before anyone else. But it has to be 'true' to have value.

    If it's not true, then it's NOT a 'scoop'. It's just made-up misinformation. "Fake news" if you like.

    scoop noun: "a story or piece of news discovered and published by one newspaper before all the others"

    scoop verb: "to be the first newspaper to discover and print an important news story"


    https://dictionary.cambridge.org/dictionary/english/scoop
     
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    Lucasfilm hasn't come out and said he is off the project. Anything else is speculation. There are people out there that hate him so much that they are just chomping at the bits for him to not be involved.
     
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    I don't believe for a single second this guy I never heard of has any sort of "scoop" - however that doesn't mean he's wrong. He's just connecting the dots from the recent news announcement and which even the greatest RJ apologists have (finally) come around to realize: There will be no Rian Johnson trilogy. You don't need an inside source at LFL to announce 2 plus 2 equals 4.

    I can't wait to see B&W's work. I think they have done a fine job overall on GoT (even though it is ending with more of a whimper than a bang) and will do a fine job on SW. It'll be nice to have 1 single creative mind(s) showrunning the new trilogy.
     
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    Disney/Fox released there long term development schedule. MCU films, Pixar, Fox, Etc, Etc.

    Untitled SW Film 2022
    Untitled SW Film 2024
    Untitled SW Film 2026

    Now who gets thier trilogy first? DB/DW? Or RJ? Someone may have to wait till 2028/2029.

    Or. RJ will direct the D&D trilogy.......



    Or, Disney will wait until Knives Out flops (premieres a week after Frozen 2) & they "part ways over creative difficulties" & let RJ go with a severance check.



    Or, it becomes a mini series on Disney Plus.

    Or, IT GOES STRAIGHT TO DVD! :D

    Speculating is fun!
     
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    .......totally ok with this.



    ....DEFINATELY OK WITH THIS



    .....Meh, but better than a RJ trilogy

    YES, and please re-release Caravan of Courage and the other Ewok movie as a 3-pack.
     
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    It is possible that Rian Johnson may direct the 2024 SW film. I do not think it is confirmed that the next three are B&W.
    The recent news report simply stated the first FILM release (2022) will be B&W.
     
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    I'm pretty certain they confirmed that they were doing two separate trilogies. It's possible that they could direct or executive produce some of RJ's films and he gets a director or producer slot on the 2024 or 2026 films. It's so far out that nothing is known at this time.
     
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    that’s what I mean. They are both doing two separate trilogies. That is why it is so important to alternate. Since 2015 we’ve have Episode movie, spinoff, episode movie, spinoff, episode movie, etc...
    Also, I remember reading last year that Rian Johnson’s movie will be in the PG range, more fantasy kid-friendly, where B&W may go dark. That is another reason to mix it up.
     
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    It's funny reading those "titles" in hindsight; though I would have thought those last three would have been bs from the start. Reign and Legacy are the only ones that are even remotely close. Who the hell are his "sources" anyway?
     
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