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SPECULATION Rolling predictions thread for Andor

Discussion in 'Andor' started by Martoto, Sep 29, 2022.

  1. Martoto

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    I think if Blevin was a spy and Rebel sympathiser, he might have been less inconsiderate when commandeering the hotel in Ferrix for ISB HQ. Unless that was tactical and the tunnels underneath are still intact.
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    It's possible that Vel was once like Mon's daughter. And that Leida too will be a rich girl who rebels against her family.
     
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    Does anyone think that we're going to see what happened to get Cinta off of Aldahni? All of the surrounding chatter in the story is about "atrocities" and one of the prisoners mentioned "slaughter". I can't tell if the media is misrepresenting the story, or maybe there's more to what happened in the garrison than we (the viewers) know. Did Cinta kill everyone in the control room before escaping? Dead imperials can't ring the alarm to impede her escape.

    Also, I'm surprised that there is no security footage from the vault or the control rooms. While they don't have names, you'd think they'd have enough footage of un-masked suspects.

    Just my two cents after watching the episodes a few times.
     
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    The death count from the CorSec incident on Ferrix was made clear... As far as Aldhani, we know that all Imperials were replaced, 134(?) locals arrested, and roughly 80M credits taken, but no death count, so they're being intentionally vague on that. I saw it mentioned somewhere that when Cinta walks out of the base to the crowd watching the Eye, that she is crying... I can't really tell. Obviously some tales of the heist are being pumped up as they're passed along- the prisoner mentions a slaughter at the Garrison and Saw mentions 100 million credits...With Cinta staked out on Ferrix now, I assume we'll get some flashbacks around her. It surprised me to see her so quickly since surely the Empire had Aldhani locked down tight.
     
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    Could be.
    It would be an opportunity to describe the heisters as mad and dangerous.
    It would also fit with a media driven by a totalitarian government : spread a calibrated message to the people.
     
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    Two more predictions.

    a) Now, IF the six-pointed, jointed thingies that the Narkina 5 prisoners are making actually is TIE fighter wing centers, then, because of the joints, they are probably building parts for the folding wing TIEs we saw Moff Gideon fly in The Mandalorian.
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    I'm not convinced yet by my own theory here, but if it IS TIE wing parts, it's gotta be these things. (Could also be just some random parts though, or some claws, or something)


    b) You know that shock floor thing? Yeah, we're gonna have a Mission Impossible-like escape across that floor next episode (if 9 is indeed the end of the arc/escape episode); perhaps they need to time something, or climb along the walls or whatever, but that setting feature is there to be cleverly overcome or turned into a weapon in the escape sequence.
     
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    I'm guessing that Gideon's folding wing tie was a newer model at the time. And still a prototype at the time of Andor. So it would be unlikely it was on an assembly line churning out dozens a day.

    I think the death star idea is far more probable. It would explain the haste and the obfuscation of the number of new labourers pressed into work. The Empire is expanding its arsenal without wanting the Senate to realise it. But that could just as easily apply to stockpiling all sorts of hardware too.
     
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    The Outland TIE fighter, as the folding-wings model is called, was apparently introduced "as the Empire lost more of its territory", without the databank giving any indication of what that actually mean.

    As for the parts somehow relating to the building of the Death Star, that would certainly tie the episode directly to Rogue One, and makes a lot of sense. However, I was of the impression that the Death Star was basically finished, except for the actual superweapon canon, for years prior to RO, and that Galen Erso stalled it for many years. Perhaps it was only for about 5 years?
     
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    I wouldn't be surprised if it was something like that. At the same time, they're surrounded by water. Water and electricity don't work well together. I could see them overloading the system with sabotage or salt water :)
     
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    More than likely the prisoners will exploit a moment of weakness and use the Empire's arrogance against them, which has been a theme throughout the story so far. Should be very interesting to see how they get out of the facility and off planet.
     
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    So I went through the trailer and with 75% of the season over, we've seen most of the storyline. While I am sure that there could be more, here's what I think is left (with pictures).

    Riot and unrest on Ferrix, complete with Death Troopers and Regular/Riot Troopers. Deedra is on-world, so is this her play to capture Cassian with Marva as bait?

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    Andor in an underground passage. While this could be part of his (Narkina 5) escape, it could also be a return to Ferrix in the tunnels Marva mentioned in an attempt to rescue her.
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    Coruscant Elevators - could something happen at Mon's residence? I'm not 100% that this is Coruscant, but the signs are there - tall buildings, little light at ground level, skycars way above. I may be wrong that his scene may have appeared already. Feedback welcome.
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    Ferrix (?) at night - imperial shuttle arriving. Perhaps a high-value Imperial (Yularen? Partegaz?) arriving. The shuttle on the adjacent pad is the same model that Bode flew out of Eadu in Rogue One.
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    Showdown of some sort with Saw and Luthen on Segra Milo:
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    Luthen space combat - My guess is that's an early surveillance ship (used as part of Deedra's com-net over Ferrix, maybe a different planet) and Luthen goes after the patrol ships in an attempt to land - maybe to snatch up Andor before he can be captured by the Empire?

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    Narkina 5 breakout - guess it takes place during the day.
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    That ship, with the antennas? That's a Cantwell-class Arrestor Cruiser :)
     
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    Great catch - I've never seen it before (and now know that it was in Solo's recruitment film at the spaceport).
     
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    More predictions:

    Now that we're going back to Tony Gilroy stories (i.e. he wrote Episodes 1-3 & 11-12), I bet we're gonna see additional Kassa flashbacks and perhas Andor's sister storyline will come back. Also, I think we might be heading back to Ferrix for a big showdown (after all, they did build a huge set for this settlement and they've hardly used it much yet). That said, I assume we'll see whatever is going to happen with the Kreegyr storyline, but perhaps that is something Luthen will go off and handle... and quite possibly die in the process.

    I also wonder if we will see Leida dragged into her mother's rebelling now, with Mon possibly recruite Leida to spy on Davo Sculdun's son or at least to play along with hosting the teenage boy in a pre-courtship meeting? In any case, the Mon Mothma plotline will come to some kind of a climax in the last two episodes -- we know, from Rebels, that she won't officially defect yet (=that's for the last arc of season 2, probably), but SOMETHING will have to climax in the Mothma storyline soon. I bet she'll get the money she needs (and hand it over to the Rebellion), and possibly sacrificing her husband or Luthan or someone else as a fallguy, or something.

    Oh, and with Luthen Rael's stirring speech at the end of ep.10, we can be certain that he's arc is more or less over. I seriously doubt he'll survive season 1, and if he does he will probably have to give his life in the setup of season 2. Yeah... Luthen is dead.
     
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    I like the idea of more Kassa/Kenari flashbacks. That could come in a form similar to the end of ep.3 where Cassian stares into the sun as he flees Ferrix with Luthen, cut in with Kassa staring into the sun as he flees Kenari with Maarva.
    We may get to see what the Empire did to Kenari paralleled with what they are about to do to Ferrix. Part of me thinks that Maarva's Rebellion is far more than the rantings of an old lady. She very well could be part of some secret faction on Ferrix separate from the loose network that Bix and Paak were part of. Bix and Brasso dismissed her checking the tunnels under the hotel as delusion, but what if she's playing a game similar to Mon Mothma. "Show them the rock in your hand and they don't notice the knife to their neck."
    Whatever the details, the events on Ferrix are going to be the "All-In" moment for Cassian, galvanizing him as a militant Rebel.

    I think we're still in a slow burn with Mon Mothma and her arc. We know she is about 2 years from a frantic flee from Palpatine and Coruscant, so probably we will see the family drama come to a boil as she marries her daughter off to Davo Sculpun's son. Her crossing that moral line will be the big payoff for her story this season.

    I'm thoroughly conflicted about Syril and Dedra and their arc. I do think they're conjoined going forward. She's driven and ruthless, but unsure of herself... He's needy and inept, but delusional and overconfident. Will she unwisely put trust in him and pay the price, or will he convince her of his value just in time to pull him from the fire? I'd love to see Dedra confront Luthen and Cassian, and realize how accurate her ideas were, just in time for Luthen to kill her. Cassian catches Syril by surprise again, but this time he pulls the trigger.
     
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    Everyone has great theories here, but what about season 2? I've read in interviews that they will continue with the 3 episode arcs but that each arc will do a timejump for the finale to line up with Rogue One.

    I hope they bring in some EU stuff to the mix, there a lot of rebel cells and criminal organizations that could make the jump to live action: Black Sun - Xizor, Talon Karrde.

    Or expand on Bel Iblis and Dodonna
     
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    Episodes 1-3: 4 BBY
    Episodes 4-6: 3 BBY
    Episodes 7-9: 2 BBY
    Episodes 10-12: 1 BBY
    …leading into to 0 BBY: Rogue One

    There will most likely be some indirect cross-over with events happening in Rebels at that time. Particularly events leading up to Mon Mothma’s Declaration of Rebellion, as seen from her perspective, probably episodes 7-9 of season 2.
     
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    Oh wow, I had forgotten about that scene in Rebels, to see Mon Mothma recording or live broadcasting that would be amazing.
     
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    I just reread this post, and both these predictions have more weight now! Those tunnels are likely to play into some importance. We now know that Vel is very much like Leida, actually related, and recent developments could draw Leida into a path similar to Vel.
     
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    I think Karn and Saw are both going to prove to be random/chaos factors in the final episode of this series. Karn still feels he needs to redeem himself, but the ISB don't want to know. He's going to farrik up their whole programme.

    Gerrera is a willing rebel but wants not part of Luthen's network. Just parts. But Saw may still go in on Spellhaus and either rescue Kregyr or succeed but Anto and his men will still be doomed but Luthen's source will not be compromised.
     
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    Could be. I want to think we've seen the last of Saw for season 1, but... That line of Luthen's when he says to Saw, "I don't know what you'll do".

    Also the scene with Bix, it appears that maybe she's going along with their suspicion that Kregyr is Axis. That would mean instead of just wiping out the Rebels at Spellhaus, the ISB will want to capture Kregyr. It would be one helluva twist if Lonni Yung is somehow killed in that fight.

    Karn is just a loose cannon, and I cannot guess where his story headed other than maybe dead on Ferrix.
     
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