SPECULATION Second Solo Kid Still Possible?

That's interesting, but they're not going to do that. It would devalue everything they've built over the past 4 years.

 

Sad but true.

I suppose they could go another way and bring in Evaan Verlaine, or even a canon version of Winter, to act as a surrogate Leia.

 

Not a bad idea except for her memory of seeing her parents fly away and Han and Leia kinda..... giving up,her.

 

No real evidence that she is seeing her parents flying away. Just that someone left her and she is waiting for them and considers them family. Family is a loose term.

 

A lot of people are saying Rey was left on Jakku because of Kylo's betrayal. This cannot be true.

Rey is 19 by the time of TFA. Ben doesn't have an exact age cited, but Pablo Hidalgo says he's 29-30 by the time of TFA. So, let's say he's 10-11 years older than Rey. Also, Rey is left on Jakku 14 years before TFA, when she's about 4 or 5 years old (you'd think she'd be old enough to remember her parents at that age, but that's what I'm seeing on the timelines I'm looking at...).

So, we've got Rey being abandoned at about 16 ABE

Kylo Ren betrays Luke only about 5 years before TFA, at 25 ABE (when Kylo was 24 or 25). So, about nine years after Rey's been on Jakku already. So, clearly Rey wasn't left on Jakku because of Kylo.


Another possibility for Rey's loss on Jakku could've been her being stolen from Han with the Falcon- or, at least that could've been a possibility if it didn't happen the same year as Ben's fall to the dark side, thus presenting that theory with the same issues.

So, as far as "logic and reason" go, it's certainly a stretch. There's nothing really concrete, other than JJ saying the film did make her parentage known. So, we can only really theorize until then- and yeah, it's certainly not an absolute use of logic and reason, but it's not a bad way to pass the time until next December.

Now, if you wouldn't mind putting on your tinfoil hat, I do have a slight theory. As stated earlier, despite the glaring timeline issues, many people think Rey is left on Jakku because of Kylo's betrayal, as protection. Instead, I posit this- what if Rey being lost on Jakku contributed to Kylo falling to the dark side? Perhaps she was kidnapped, or lost, and Ben took it really hard. Maybe he even somehow feels responsible for it? There's even the possibility that we have evidence Han was searching for Rey, given that the Falcon is on her planet. Now, this isn't very hard evidence in a galaxy where hyperdrives can provide rapid transit from planet to planet, but remember that Han only lost the Falcon about 5 years before TFA- yet, it looks like it had been sitting dormant for a little while by the time Finn and Rey get to it. Perhaps Han was searching Jakku and nearby systems when it was stolen, Ducain and the other previous owners didn't get far with it afterward before dumping it. Just a theory.

 

But we still have the scene of Rey yelling for her family to come back. That wouldn't have happened if she was kidnapped or lost. Rey seems pretty confident that she was left there by a family she knows/remember and that they are coming back. I also have to think if anyone has the resources to find 1 lost girl on a planet it'd be Han and Leia - they have the Republic AND the Jedi behind them.

It also don't address the issue of neither her father, mother or brother everyacknowleding her once they've found her.

 

She was a child- her recollection of things could be pretty skewed. Again, let me be very clear that I don't find this theory completely flushed out, but if you don't see it as possible, you simply lack imagination. Rey could've crawled out of the Falcon, while Han and Leia thought they had her safely asleep in the back. Plutt could've secretly taken her, with Han unaware. I mean, there are certainly possibilities- and while no single one is likely, it's naive to think that it's impossible as well.

Well, it's been 14 years. None of them necessarily know, first of all. Look at Rey in that flashback. If you saw Daisy Ridley today, would you recognize that child as a former version of her?

Han and Leia might wonder if she's their daughter, but that's a tough subject to breach, and one that wasn't exactly a priority at the time. Still, Han showed a lot of interest in her- even offered her a job. I don't think that's an "issue" at all.

 

It was the force showing her her past, not her memory.

I don't see it as possible given what we were given in TFA. To have this be legit we'd need Lucas level contunity ignoring.

We have that scene with Maz when she asked Hanw ho she is and we get a cut away. That editting technique is done to tell the audience that Han knows something about her and who she is that he is going to tell Maz but we can't know yet. So again, why would Han ignore his daughter? Also isn't part of the "evidence" for Rey Solo how Leia hugs her?

 

Here, from my previous post:

You can argue the specifics with me all you want, but all I'm saying is that to say that this theory is out of the realm of possibility is naive. We have laser swords and a magic that penetrates the galaxy. In the realm of far fetched things to happen, this isn't that unlikely.

 

I get what you're saying.

I'm saying given how TFA played out I think they would nee Lucas levels of contuntity ignoring to make it believable. I think the second they announce on screen half the audience goes "BS, Han was right there and didn't say thing" etc....

 

Maybe. Maybe we'll get reasons.

We could have had this conversation in the late '70s, too.

"But Obi Wan said Luke's father was dead. There's no way Vader's gonna be Luke's father. It's just too unbelievable. And Luke and Leia would've recognized each other if they were siblings, so that theory doesn't work either."

The only thing we can really count on is Episode 8 coming out. Hopefully it's a good one, and hopefully it reveals some interesting things!

 

Except we don't LUke and vader hanging for most of hte movie with no mention of it.

 

I mean, if that's your standard, I guess.

Kind of a weird place to draw the line in the sand, and it makes for some pretty bland storytelling when applied across the board, but you do you, man.

 

You're right, there could be an explaination that makes sense. But I can't think of it and I haven't seenanyone else come up with it either.

 

Yeah, well, that's why I'm excited for the film. Trust me, I'm not even close to being convinced either, but I'm eagerly awaiting what's in store, whatever it ends up being.

Cheers!

 

Well, she WAS wearing the same outfit...

 

She must get her tunic from the same place Bruce Banner gets his pants.

 

I like the option of "Doesn't matter" just so I can post this

 

I think Rey being a Solo would be irritating. Here is why, wouldn’t Han recognize his own kid if he thought she was dead but here she is?
Also, Leia takes it pretty well to find out her long lost daughter is actually alive. It would further make Han and Leia bad parents. If rey is Leia’s kid why would she just leave her there on Jakku while she’s running the resistance?

 

Well, if she does happen to be a solo, I suppose we'll get answers for that in the next film. Remember, Obi Wan told Luke that his father was dead. There'd be some pretty big dissonance between that claim and reality, if it wasn't explained in future films.