SPECULATION Spring Cleaning: Figuring out TFA by debunking "Spoilerbirds"

There isn't anything glaringly implausible about the post, but there's really nothing about it that would allow you to differentiate between it being fake or real.

 

I can tell you it was written by an American because of this statement:

• Harrison Ford was intoxicated when he was injured on-set, he could not claim insurance as a result, Kathleen Kennedy had words with him when he returned to set

Also, Disney would flip the bill if someone was injured on set.

 

This guy implies he's from post-production. Most of those guys are going to be American.

 

And a post-production guy commenting on something that happened during production.......

Regardless the point is moot. Whether Disney, Harrison, or the insurance company flipped the bill does not improve this guy credit. The door fell on him regardless of whether he was drunk or not.

I doesn't sound like comments from some who was working on post-production or production for that matter.

 

I'm sure rumors get passed around amongst people in the production. I can't really tell either way about this guy.

 

I heard the same stuff some weeks ago about Hamill and Ford, I hope that this is just terrible made up fantasy.

 

I would say that being proud and being "a little twisted in the head" are two totally different things. "A little twisted in the head" implies she is a little crazy. Being proud of the weapon does not mean she is crazy especially if she views it as a defensive weapon.

 

If a person is "proud" of something that can be used to commit mass murder, they're going to be a little unhinged. Having pride in an instrument of catastrophic violence would be considered a moral failing, especially within the context of the morality of the Star Wars universe. Even looking at an example in the real universe, many countries stockpile atomic bombs for defensive purposes, but would anyone want to say they're "proud" of their country's atomic arsenal? Her sense of virtue has been compromised in some way. That's what I believe bothanspi was trying to convey, and Jason now appears to be leaning toward this interpretation too.

 

Good question, personally I don't know right now.
Someone here with knowledge about it?
But this points doesn't sound to far-fetched or not? Not that I say I believe this.

• Mark Hamill is only in two scenes but he knocked it out of the park. He will definitely be a lot more present in episode VIII

• Han Solo is not killed by Kylo Ren, he is killed during a space battle in the third act

• Carrie Fisher had some issues on set which resulted in some of budget going to waste due to cancellations, Disney are looking to reduce her role wherever possible from now on

 

They can't cut luke out of the rest of the movie, thats insulting.

 

Ah...a new challenger has entered the ring. Even though this is Reddit, none of these rumors sound that farfetched....
Carrie Fisher having issues?
Drunk Solo gets blown up in space?
Luke has a glorified cameo?

Still believe that someone wants us to believe A) Han dies, B) Luke's not in it., and C)Leia has been marginalized. Could be true, but still not buying it. First of all, Lucas had spoken with Hamill, Ford, and Fisher before JJ was even signed...they were always part of the plan....back in 2012. In fact, I still don't believe that Ardnt wrote the OT cast into cameos....it doesn't make sense considering how involved Lucas was at that point (Kasdan and Ardnt were handpicked by Lucas). Kasdan was a consultant while Ardnt was writing, so I'm guessing that he had a lot of influence on the process from the beginning... as did the story group.

Remember, Disney bought the property and blew up the EU so that it could tell stories about the OT characters. Marvel Comics is publishing comics about the OT...not Jar Jar. One of the first post-Disney books to be published was about Luke, not Jango Fett. Disney bought the property because of THESE characters...not for the Clone Wars characters. So it wouldn't make much sense to keep them on the sidelines in Episode 7. They were part of the plan from the beginning.

And finally, Disney has a proven track record of allowing the studios (i.e.: Marvel and Pixar) to have creative control... so I'm not really worried about the Mouse. Hell, Disney took a huge gamble on GotG and Ant Man....they know what they're doing.

 

It sounds really gossipy like some kind of sensational magazine "scoop." I don't really buy it.

"Ardnt, Disney, JJ and Kasdan ended up changing so much of subplot, minor characters and production style from Lucas' drafts, that he simply felt it wasn't his story anymore. So this is why he publicly declared that his stories were thrown out."

"JJ dislikes the prequels and unintentionally ruffled Lucas' feathers in the writer's room, leading to some bitterness from Lucas who stopped coming in as often"

First he/she says:
"Post-production is going very well, Disney have not been intervening as much as we expected"

Then:
"Disney have constantly been on JJ's back in spite of his creative control, there have been some disagreements"

"Harrison Ford was intoxicated when he was injured on-set"

"Carrie Fisher had some issues on set which resulted in some of budget going to waste due to cancellations, Disney are looking to reduce her role wherever possible from now on"

So basically everyone was acting like a bunch of babies...right. #tossitinthebin

 

LOL mini-bar

 

The part where Ardnt was behind schedule and JJ apparently wanted to move onto storyboarding sounds realistic actually, some quotes from JJ on Arndt's departure:

"It became clear that given the time frame and given the process and the way the thing was going that working with Larry in this way was going to get us where we need to be and when we needed to be. Working with Larry Kasdan, especially on a Star Wars movie is kind of unbeatable."


"Working with Michael was a wonderful experience and I couldn’t be a bigger fan of his or adore him more, He’s a wonderful guy and was incredibly helpful in the process. [This event] doesn’t preclude working with Michael again in the future, he is one of the best writers around"

And quote from the "leak":

"JJ voiced his concerns to Kathleen Kennedy and they met with Disney. Soon after it was confirmed that JJ would take over screenwriting duties with a writer that both parties agreed on. Disney made sure that JJ could only do this under the condition that his and Kasdan's screenplay would stick by the main plot points written by Ardnt"

Interesting, though the stuff with Carrie/Harrison does seem gossipy.

 

What you point out is not necessarily a contradiction. It could be that during the production phase, Disney was harassing J.J., but then during post-production, the management decided to back off a little bit.

But if the production rumors are true, you would expect independent sources to be confirming one another's stories about them. We can't determine anything from this observation. If one person says the sky is blue, would that automatically call into question the veracity of anyone who subsequently makes a similar statement?