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SPECULATION Super Tinfoil Theory Returns!!

Discussion in 'Star Wars: Rebels' started by Use the Falchion, Jul 6, 2016.

  1. Use the Falchion

    Use the Falchion Jedi Contrarian

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    SPOILERS ALL! YOU HAVE BEEN WARNED.

    First, it was Kanan as Lor San Tekka (or more accurately, Max Von Sydow since we didn't know his character's name at the time) and Ezra as Snoke. Then, it was Maul as Snoke. Now...now it's time for a new and completely impossible crackpot/tinfoil theory for humor and amusement!

    The theory: Not only is Rey the daughter of Ezra Bridger, but Ezra himself is related to the Skywalker family!! What!?!?!

    The (non-existent) evidence: Recently some comments by Iain McCaig hinted at a secret Skywalker line from Shmi and Jedi Qui-Gon Jinn, eventually resulting in Rey. Most of this seemed to be referring to scrapped ideas for TPM, but McCaig also has had to do some "clarification" for better lack of a word on what was said, even if he wasn't the one reporting it. The point? Ideas from other scrapped have made it into different shows, the most recent case being Saw Gerrera - a character created for Star Wars Underworld, then retooled for Star Wars: The Clone Wars, and now being used in Star Wars Rogue One. So, what's to say this isn't the case with Shmi and Gui-Gon's affair(?) and subsequent child?

    But what does this all have to do with Ezra? Well, simply put, what if Ezra's mother was that child? We know the Force runs in families, and it'd be a great way to connect Ezra to the Skywalkers (given all of the comparisons so far). It'd add another layer of storytelling and connection to the animated shows (and a tragic layer of irony for Ahsoka - she couldn't stop either Skywalker). Shmi's daughter being Ezra's mother could also explain why she doesn't have the Skywalker name anymore. It was her maiden name and she changed it after marrying.

    So what happens? Well, some time after Rebels and RotJ, Luke and Ezra meet. Maybe they train together, maybe Ezra helps Luke restart the Jedi. Somewhere along the way, Ezra and Luke find out they're related, Ezra has a child, and Ezra goes dark (bonus points if it was Snoke's influence). From here, Luke hides Rey and kills Ezra. That's why Luke is so sober when he meets her. She's not only his family, but the daughter of the man he had to slaughter. Sure, it'd be a tragic ending for such a beloved character, but this is coming from a fandom that had Ahsoka pegged to die in Order 66 the moment they met her and don't expect Kanan and Ezra to make it out of Rebels.

    This theory ties in Rebels to the central Skywalker Saga, making the show feel more connected to the Star Wars world than ever before (not that it needed to feel any extra boost).

    TL;DR - Ezra's mother is Shmi's daughter, making him a Skywalker. He is also the father of Rey and was killed by Luke for going to the Dark Side.

    NOTE: the theory could also work with Ezra's dad, provided he was adopted like Leia was.

    Drawbacks: Practically everything. Why would Shmi and Qui-Gon have a kid? Even then, both of Ezra's parents have blue hair, so where would THAT come from (although in the Kanan comic it was portrayed as black, and I think it was referenced as "dark" in the Servants of the Empire series, so it might just be artistic portrayal)? Why make the galaxy smaller by linking the two shows in an unnecessary way? Who would Ezra's wife/baby-momma be? Sabine couldn't work because Rey's not Space Asian... And why would Luke trust someone who's gone to the Dark Side to help rebuild the Jedi (then again, it's not like he'd have a lot of choices...)? This theory is so complicated, would the casual viewer care at all? And probably many more I can't think of at the moment...

    But that's the theory! Long, complicated, impossible, but hopefully enjoyable! So, what do y'all think? Did you like it? Did you hate it? It's crazy, but is it TOO crazy? Am I crazy? Got another theory for this non-existent Secret Skywalker? Thanks and let me know!


    Secondary Theory: Lor San Tekka is Shmi and Gui-Gon's child, Luke and Leia's uncle, and Rey's father. Unlikely, but what a plot twist.
     
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  2. Empire Jo

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    Awesome theory man. The thing I love most about this theory is that Qui-Gon got some action. But yeah. Not gunna happen. To many dots to join.

    Thanks for brightening my day with this whackadoodle theory though. :)
     
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  3. Lazlo

    Lazlo Rebel Official

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    Bravo...I'm leaning towards not seeing any of the Rebels main characters ever show up on film because if Rebels does really run 5 seasons it would spoil the impact as we would know that they lived through the show.

    Unless...Rebel's wraps up before EP IX and we find out that Snoke is only the front man and Ezra and Kanan were secretly the men behind the curtain all along and have Maul sitting in an oversized petrie dish that looks kind of like a lava lamp and Ahsoka is really the super villain pulling Ezra and Kanan around because she figured that if the great Anakin Skywalker can go bad then she has to destroy all force users for the good of the galaxy but she has a change of heart when she meets Finn and Sabine's baby...Breaks down in tears, "Oh, What Have I done" and finally sets the Ewoks free before killing all of the Kaminoans who are relay the bad guys because she tried to Clone Master Windu after his severed hand was found in a box of carry out Nemoidian noodles, but the cloning went wrong and instead of Samuel L Jackson we got Andy Serkis with a massive head wound and that was why Ms. Tano started the FO on a whim while sipping Corellian brandy out of Darth Jar Jar's skull....

    The story group gave it all to us as soon as we learned that Ahsoka Tano's real name was Fulcrum, clearly she is the point around which the entire saga turns
     
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  4. Use the Falchion

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    Soooo...Snoke is Ahsoka...? ;)
     
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    Ahsnokea
     
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    Wouldn't shim have changed her last name to jinn if they secretly married and by the way I've seen in the past that animation uses purple hair to better portray black
     
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    No, no , no....

    You clearly missed the brilliance of my insane tinfoil ramblings :)

    Snoke is a clone of Mace Windu commissioned by Ahsoka that went horribly wrong. It was supposed to be a beautiful thing and instead turned out to be a nightmare that resembled something that came out of Darth Plagueis' dungeon (even though that is no longer canon)
     
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    I'm sorry! I see the error of my ways now! And I understand the brilliance of yours! I mean, it explains Kylo Ren's eventual betrayal of his mistrusting overseer!

    Only if they got married. One-night stands however...
     
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    It's interesting, and I think it's neat to tie in the Rebels crew, especially because they've got to somehow write them out of the story by the end of the series (or at least the beginning of A New Hope) because having two other more experienced Jedi roaming the galaxy at the time Luke starts his training greatly lessens what it was Luke had to contend with. It also doesn't make sense that Yoda and Obi Wan would go on about Luke being the last hope for the galaxy when, at least, Yoda knows about Ezra and Kanan.

    I don't think it will happen, though, and it's the same reason Marvel doesn't let stuff from Agents of SHIELD creep into the movies... they don't want to confuse people who haven't seen the TV show. It would be tough for them to say, "Oh hey, Agent Coulson's alive, and here's all the stuff he's been up to" to try to get people caught up. Likewise, to incorporate Ezra into the movies' storylines would either require them to catch up the people who haven't watched Rebels (and considering Rebels targets a younger crowd that the movies do, this is a pretty significant percentage of movie-goers) or allow Rey's parentage to go unappreciated by all those people who have no idea who Ezra is. It's a safe bet to assume most people who see these new movies have seen all the other 6, that's reasonable, but a lot have not even heard of Rebels.

    Neat idea. I don't see it happening, though, alas. And they've still got some work to do before they really sell me on taking Ezra seriously as a Jedi. ;)
     
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    Thanks and I'm glad you were entertained! I agree that it most likely won't happen, but I disagree about the crossover potential.

    You're correct about AoS and the MCU, but lately, that's been one of the franchise's biggest criticisms, with fans, critics (I think), and even actors/actresses on the show (Chloe Bennett) speaking up about the lack of crossover and, in some ways, respect. They could easily bring Coulson onto a movie and say "I died, I was brought back, stuff happened, we went underground," but they won't and they'll keep getting burned for that.

    Star Wars is in a different scenario. Firstly, they've already corrected the crossover part, with characters like Rae Sloane and Saw Gerrera showing up in multiple forms of Star Wars media (Rae first chronologically appearing in A New Dawn, then the Kanan comic, and then the Aftermath books; Saw in The Clone Wars and now in Rogue One). Star Wars has to worry about timelines, but since most of these things aren't happening concurrently, they have a little more room to breath and plan.

    As for the "Last Jedi" aspect, Filoni has gone on record to say that they way they get around it in the show is simply saying Luke is the last of the traditionally trained Jedi or of a sect more or less. So could Ezra Brider appear on the same screen as Luke Skywalker? Potentially, yes, so long as Ezra isn't claiming to be a Jedi (or at least, not in the conventional/traditional sense). Will it happen on-screen? I doubt it, but it doesn't need to happen on screen either - the simple fact that they could meet in a comic, or on an episode of some future show would be good enough (although on-screen is better).
     
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    blue hair in animation is often used as a placeholder for dark or black hair because some TVs will darken those colors, and others cant and dont have particularly good true blacks.

    since it is projected light... and projected dark is not really a thing...

    Also Ezras facial features appear to be either arabic or south-easy european... he isnt like super white or anything.
     
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    Fun, but like you said, not gonna happen. I give you points for creativity though.
     
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