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SPECULATION The droids.

Discussion in 'Star Wars: The Force Awakens' started by ChromeTrooper, Jul 1, 2015.

  1. ChromeTrooper

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    I have a really strong suspicion C3P0 will die in VII. It actually makes sense from several perspectives. He's a relatively unpopular character (no one actively hates him, but few actively like him either), he's a coward so him doing something heroic would give him some development and finish his character arc, and the fact that they're introducing another droid... three droids seems like too many, you know? Plus the fact that in the trailer, Luke (presumably Luke...) lays his hand on R2D2 in a way that almost suggests he's comforting him.

    On the other hand, if BB-8 replaces 3P0's spot beside R2, we'd end up with two non-verbal droid characters which might be kind of odd. Then again, that could give the opportunity for some cute moments after 3P0s death where the two robots mourn together sending sad electronic bleeps and bloops each others way.

    I guess having 3 droid characters just seems like too many. Perhaps 3P0 and R2 will play less of a role in VII and IX with BB-8 taking over for both of them?

    Thoughts?
     
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    Can't happen , C3PO is a immortal golden God !
     
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    I hope not, but not from a Star Wars perspective. I'm not particularly a 3po fan, but he serves a purpose in the story. Some of his comic relief I enjoy. But if he dies, Anthony Daniels would martyr him, and that would be unbearable! For me, anyways.
     
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    C3PO is immortal
     
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    Personally I don't think we'll lose any of the droids. C-3PO has himself been blasted apart and reassembled as if nothing happened already. Plus there's the strange weirdness of "killing" a droid.

    I'm assuming the the droids, or C-3PO at least, will play less of a role. Or they may for all intents and purposes be equal, but separate -- like in ESB. R2 with Luke or one of the New Three, C-3PO with Leia or one of the new three, and BB-8 with one of the new three from the start (plus Han a bit later on). That way you can have all three but not have it be so crazy.
     
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    C3P0 is unpopular? He had his own cereal box.
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    Really though, I don't see how killing him will do anything but piss off a lot of people.
     
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    Interestingly enough, I was in Wal-Mart the other day and saw some special Star Wars cereal out. I was in a hurry though so I can't remember who was on it.
     
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    George Lucas always had the intention of having R2 and C3PO the only characters to survive all of the movies and from what I was aware of, that was 12 movies not 9. I'm sure you've noticed there are a lot of "backstories" in the Star Wars movies besides the main stories of Luke and Anakin. This would be one of them. Their story is the journey that two best friends make over the course of their life. If one or both of them were to die, it wouldn't be until Episode IX, and even then, I doubt it. It would appear that BB-8 is just another role in the story. I think we will get a healthy share of the droids in this one, not nearly as much as the other movies though. Probably still more so than Episode I.
     
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    I don't see this happening. I think he's more popular than you give him credit for and if they killed him, his non-vocal fans would get very loud very quickly. He and R2 serve a purpose in these stories and the films would suffer if they weren't there. I know JJ has consulted with Lucas about a great number of things and I'm sure Lucas wouldn't approve of killing off either of his droids. He had plans for them to be in EVERY chapter of this story.
     
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    If Lucas has anything to say on the mather (which he probably don't at this point), there is no way they're going to kill his version of the Maschinenmensch from Metropolis. Also, I don't think killing off C-3PO serves any story function. He IS a one dimentional character, which IMHO illustrates perfectly that he is a robot. R2D2 is much less robot'y than Goldenrod - Hell, R2D2 probably has a soul and is force sensitive :p (just kidding)
     
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    C3PO is my favorite Star Wars character so I hope not. I doubt it, the droids will remain constant through the franchise in my opinion.
     
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    Mentioned in another thread, but I've had the same worry. A couple of Anthony Daniels' comments about the new movie gave the impression (to me, at least) that it could be his last.

    They could also be taken as him being cagey about the movie. So I don't know.
     
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    I tend to buy into the "leak" that 3PO will be with Leia for Ep VII. As mentioned earlier, he is one dimensional, serves a purpose, and was intended to be in every episode.

    No way R2 doesn't make it all of the way through, even though I nearly had a heart attack when he was flying around the droid factory in EPII. What was George thinking?
     
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    The Droids and Chewie are safe - unlike the human actors they don't really age and in terms of toy sales and theme park attractions they are gold to Disney. You can't have 5 different Harrison Fords all at theme parks around the world but the Droids and Chewie can be replicated to a high standard.
     
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    There's little to no gain in any story by killing your comic relief and that's largely all C3PO is. I know he interprets too, but even when he does he is so cowardly and neurotic it produces humor. You kill powerful characters, not weak ones when you want to give your audience a jolt.

    I like 3PO is a favorite of mine. I always argued he's the heart of the film during IV's opening, because he's just as disoriented and unsure as the audience as the drama unfolds. It's when he's purchased by the Jawas that Luke becomes the primary eyes that we see the story through, but up until then, it's largely from 3PO's perspective.

    I know this sounds pessimistic but I have very little faith that BB-8 is going to work, but since that is a negative view, I won't go into further detail, but I think they spent so much time making him actually work, that they possibly forgot to make sure he has a vivid, charming, rich character. I don't think he has much character other than to bounce around and be extremely cute. I hope I am wrong.
     
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    Lucas' long ago comments about wanting R2 and C-3PO to be the connective tissue across the entire saga always stuck with me. So much so, that their rumored lack of contribution in TFA didn't sit well with me at first. At this point it appears more likely that Chewbacca will continue to play a significant role going forward, with BB-8 brought in to be the droid for this new generation.

    Now, having grown used to the idea, it's not really an issue for me one way or the other. The droids, while certainly displaying human characteristics in their personalities, are not people and therefore don't really grow as characters. If they get phased out, or reduced to cameo appearances, I don't see that it really makes much of a difference. I doubt, however, that either one would get killed off. There's no way that such an event would serve a story that they play bit roles in. It would only be done for shock value, which I'm against on principle. There's no need to try and make Star Wars "dark" just for the sake of making it dark.
     
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    The only way I can see it work is if C3PO were to sacrifice himself for R2. It'd be "against his protocol". But he'd do it for his friend. It'd be the ultimate testimate to the droid's humanity. I'd cry so much.
     
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    Yes, @odmichael, this would work nicelly, and I'd join you in a weep.
     
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    Honestly, the only way to even "kill" a droid like 3PO would be to do something completely over the top like melt his circuits or dismantle him and strew the parts across the galaxy. I just don't see that happening. He and R2 both faced "dying" in the OT and both came out the other side none the worse; I doubt we'll see either of them "killed" off just because they might be extraneous at this point.

    Lucas once said that the story of Star Wars is told from the droids' perspective, that they are the glue which holds the saga together. I stick by this approach; in the end, they will be the only characters to have appeared in all the movies, because they are the ones that ultimately relate to us this story of "long ago in a galaxy far, far away."

    In this same thought though, I also doubt that BB-8 will become part of this tradition. She's obviously an important part of TFA and may have just as large of a role going forward in the ST, but she wasn't around for the PT or OT. I don't think she'll die either, but I could see her disappearing from the story at some point.

    As an aside: I also doubt Chewie will ever die, seeing as us EU fans already had to deal with his death and his subsequent resurrection for the ST.
     
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    Personally, I doubt either 3PO or R2 will die (for the reasons cited above). That said, has anyone considered that the reason "Luke" lays his hand on R2 is because he foresees the loss of friends in the future, R2 among them? Just a thought.

    On the subject of BB-8: while impressed as all hoot about the technology behind the puppet, I am a little underwhelmed and bemused by BB-8 as a character, tbh. It wouldn't surprise me if TFA is BB-8's only SW movie. There's just something about the little fella I don't quite trust. Possible traitor/spy in the Resistance network, perhaps?....
     
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