SPECULATION The Fate of Finns Lightsaber

Yes and Yes, disney owns all the star wars material, and the individual authors never has any ownership of the characters they create.

 

I recall a leak somewhere stating Maz says only one has held this saber and not committed evil with it. I could see Luke dropping the lightsaber in a stream of lava, or cutting it in half with his green saber to break the curse. Maybe the origins of the blue crystal contained in Anakins "babykiller" had a Sith curse. Anyway, I just think it could end up purposely destroyed by Luke.

 

I think there will be a scene where Finn is in the med bay receiving his mechanical hand, and Rey comes in to thank him for saving her. He'll give Rey the lightsaber and she'll take it, look at it, and then give it back to Finn. She say something like: "It works better for you...I'll keep my staff."

 

Maybe even Rey hands Finn the light saber INTO Finn's new hand, and he activates the saber while testing his hand.

 

As we know from MSW,

- Maz tells Rey that the lightsaber found its way to her, but she initially rejects it (and runs away into the forest where she is found and captured by Kylo while Maz's castle is destroyed).

- When Finn falls to Kylo Ren (he is severely injured, possibly loses a limb), Rey finally accepts the lightsaber and wields it against Kylo.

- For some reason (which we don't yet know), only after the battle at Starkiller Base is it discovered that the lightsaber was hiding Luke's location all along (maybe this is why Kylo wanted it so badly?). Rey takes the lightsaber to Luke. Presumably there's some dialogue between Luke and Rey. This is the end of the movie.

As we know from filming for Ep 8 at Skellig Michael,

- We will pick up where we left off on Skellig with Luke training Rey (they were the only two cast members to appear together for these scenes, both those filmed for Ep 7 and the later shooting with Rian Johnson for Ep 8). This makes it pretty clear that Rey alone is being trained by Luke....which suggests that the lightsaber belongs to her (assuming she hasn't built a new one between Ep 7 and 8).


My own personal speculation:
Based on the trailer narration, including the choice to use Luke's lines from ROTJ about the Force being strong in his family, and Maz's lines about seeing the same eyes in different people...I'm fairly confident that Rey is a Skywalker (either through Leia or Luke) and that she is, therefore, the rightful heir to the lightsaber anyway.

Remember that by the end of the movie, Rey has inherited virtually every major OT relic:
- The Millennium Falcon
- Han's blaster (see officially released concept art)
- Chewie, Han's first mate
- Anakin/Luke's lightsaber

To me this suggests that she is Han's daughter, not Luke's (despite EU, GL made it pretty clear in the prequels, and with the example of Ben in the OT, that Jedi are supposed to be celibate; Hamill has strongly hinted that this would be the case at Celebration and elsewhere, joking that being in love with is own sister screwed him up), and that her Skywalker blood comes from Leia. In this way, Rey is the heir to both the Solo and Skywalker legacies.

 

I don't see MSW as 110% accurate.

 

100% accurate, not 110%.

I worked on the staff of the Star Wars Database in the '90s and was heavily involved in spoilers for the Star Wars prequels. I had shooting scripts for both Episode II and Episode III, reliable insiders, concept art, etc. As far as I know, I was the first person in the world to publicly leak the screenplay for Episode III. Once upon a time, it was my website that had the most accurate plot synopsis for an upcoming Star Wars movie (as far as I know).
A decent chronicle of my involvement with the prequels:
http://millenniumfalcon.com/phpbb/viewtopic.php?p=145924&sid=d0c31d6fc2baaf4f2a3c72906b2a52b1

The one thing I'm most proud of is that I was the first news outlet in the world to report that NSYNC had appeared as extras in AOTC.
http://starwars.wikia.com/wiki/Star_Wars:_Episode_II_Attack_of_the_Clones (scroll down to Behind the Scenes)
http://www.hollywood.com/general/n-sync-to-appear-in-star-wars-prequel-57183569/
I firmly believe that because I reported this, they were cut from the final film (I admit, it didn't make the movie any better).

I'm not saying all this to boast (haven't really mentioned my past since creating this account in August), I only say it because I know what it's like to be in Ward's shoes. For all I know, I knew more about Eps 2 & 3 than he's ever known about Ep 7.

My spoiler adventures even included some ugly legal action involving two of the guys behind TFN. (Those two guys were huge a**holes).

Pre-production is always a crap shoot, especially for the first movie in the trilogy. You don't have a good way to independently confirm who's legit and who isn't, but because you're a spoiler news outlet, it doesn't make sense to sit on stuff just because you think it sounds bogus. So in the beginning, you release what you get and hopefully you tell people to take it with a grain of salt. Jason Ward was pretty good about doing that with the early rumors.

Once it became clear which of his sources were the real deal (e.g. concept art, details from the shooting script, etc), Ward knew he could be confident about which spoilers to stand behind. As far as I know, every single thing he released without explicitly stating that he wasn't confident in it has turned out to be true. The sole exceptions are teaser/trailer shots that didn't end up in the finished product. This was initially seen as a strike against Ward, but when these exact same shots later turned up in other trailers and TV shots, it became clear that Ward was accurately reporting what was known, and that the shots must've been edited out of the final teasers/trailers.

If you can point to a spoiler item that Ward has published in the last, say, 12 months that has turned out to be flatly contradicted by official material, I'd definitely like to know about it.

For the record, my understanding is that Ward has acted like a jerk to other websites throughout much of this process. My post is not a personal endorsement of his behavior.

 

I'm not saying he is wrong by any means, but maybe he might be a tad off with the way he says things. I know all about leaks and all, myself. As others have said on this forum, he's being fed certain information like some other leaks and being told to say what when.

 

Never said we did.
Only thing we know for sure is that it's Luke and Rey on Skellig, not Luke and Finn. At least not at that location (so far).

 

Purple Rain Johnson was there during the filming, right?

 

Yep.
Even confirmed by Hamill via twitter, lol.
Johnson's reply is pretty funny.

 

I wish it would be confirmed whether Johnson was there to aid in the shooting to get practice in the SW Universe or actually for VIII .

 

Confirmed again by Hamill.

The above tweet was in response to the reaction to this:

 

I meant for filming months ago.

 

As far as I can tell, Hamill's tweets seem to suggest:
"I am in Episode VIII"
then
"That's not really a spoiler because the press widely reported I was filming at Skellig with Rian Johnson a few months ago"

Taken together it seems like a confirmation of what the press (and this website and MSW) had reported at the time; that the filming was for Episode VIII.

Because they were in a hurry to film those scenes so early in the production process (due to the difficulty of filming at Skellig, weather, special permission, etc), it also suggests to me that all Skellig filming for Ep 8 has been completed, though that's just a big assumption on my part. Frankly, I'm not even sure that Disney/Lucasfilm would get permission to film there again anyway...

 

It could have also been due to weather conditions, as he filmed there before, but got the same time in 2015 to film, o still think they are pick up shots or they're pulling "A Tattooine" where GLA SHOT THE last shot of ROTS during the filming of AOTC.

 

Do you know, I never really read "Rey takes the lightsaber to Luke" as Rey returning the saber.
It always made more sense to me that she was kind of presenting herself to Luke as the one whose destiny led her to him.
Kind of like, "Here, I've got this... now what do you want me to do next...?"

It seems to me the saber kind of belongs to Rey as soon as Maz sees it is her destiny; it's just that she doesn't accept that destiny until she is forced to confront Kylo Ren at the end of the movie.
I never saw the goal as being "giving Luke his saber back", the saber was just a means to an end. It's kind of about finding the new (new) hope.
She's a Rey of hope, if you will...
(*groan* - I know, I know)

 

I agree that this is definitely possible.
Could be that these were Ep 7 pick ups and Johnson was there to ease in as director and start taking over where JJ left off.

Maybe they felt that the ending was too abrupt and that there wasn't enough Luke (e.g. "Rey hands Luke the lightsaber. Credits roll.").
Actually, I secretly hope that this is the case...but doesn't seem that way based on Hamill's tweets....

It's fun to put the puzzle pieces together though, isn't it???

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Totally agree with this btw