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The Kenobi/Skywalker Bloodlines Will Mix? (or have?)

Discussion in 'Star Wars: The Force Awakens' started by Paladinryan, Dec 17, 2015.

  1. Paladinryan

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    I was thinking about the rumor that this new trilogy would feature a granddaughter of Obi-Wan Kenobi. It's interesting that Obi-Wan can be
    heard saying "Rey" in her lightsaber induced vision (at least, I think it's Obi-Wan).

    What if Luke married the daughter of Obi-Wan and they had Rey? Or what if Rey is purely a Kenobi, but she eventually ends up with Kylo or another Skywalker? The mixing of the bloodlines would be a nice way to cap off the PT and OT and would give new meaning to Obi-Wan and Anakin's relationship.

    Just a thought.
     
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    Are suggesting Kenobi & Satine may have had a child in the past?
     
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    Yes. There's a theory that child is Sabine from Rebels, but I dunno. I just want to know why it's
    Obi-Wan calling Rey's name,
    and not someone else in the vision. Maybe Obi-Wan had her mother after his exile to Tatooine, though.
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    It also sounds like...
    Obi-Wan says to Rey, "these are your first steps."
     
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    It's a good theory, maybe this could give Ewan McGregor a reason to make a comeback in the second movie.
     
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    Or another reason to watch the Obi-Wan solo film
     
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    There is a Spin-off titled Kenobi... might not be final title.
    STARWARS-Spinoffs.jpg

    While back there was a rumor that there was a great grand daughter of obi-wan kenibo. So him and Satine had sex?
     
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    Wow really?! I totally missed that. Do you hear the voice of Ewan?
     
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    I was thinking this this morning, and if it turns out that she isn't a Skywalker, I am absolutely all for this.
     
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    I'm... not sure. Seems like a lot of exposition to go through. And the notion that Obi-Wan had a family of his own isn't set up or alluded to in any of the other six films.
     
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    I think it would be very interesting if Kenobi had a secret daughter, and she had a child with Luke. What messes a lot of this up is the fact that Luke can communicate with obi wan as a force ghost, and agree that it might look shoe horned into the saga given there's little previously to hint at this and somewhat out of character for obi wan (Outside of the clone wars cartoons, which reaches a much smaller audience than the movies).

    That said, it would be cleaner storywise for Luke to have had a child with someone completely new, and the back story is she's killed by the knights of ren and somehow saves/hides Rey... Perhaps without Luke's knowledge.
     
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    Correct in my mind. OB1 followed the rules of the Jedi. He wouldn't have trained Anakin if not the approval of the council. He is a straight up by the book cop when it comes to Jedi code. He never slept with anyone.
     
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    Everyone seems to forget that Yoda spoke to her as well in her Force Vision. So I don't think it's Rey that is a Kenobi but, a Skywalker and Luke's daughter.

    I do think it could be possible but, entirely unlikely that Finn is the grandson of Obi-Wan. I don't know why I feel this way but, I think it could fit for one poetic reason and one old rumor.

    1. Finn is almost killed by Kylo Ren before being saved by Rey, just as Obi-Wan was saved by Anakin in their duel with Dooku in Attack of the Clones in similar circumstances.

    2. Obi-Wan rumors pointed to him having a wife and daughter? Maybe granddaughter that was mixed. This could have been changed to a son/grandson.

    I don't know how this could work. I feel really we would need a good reason either way. My hope ultimately would be he just ends up being a new character with a new family and no history with anyone. I like the character. I just feel having him related to anyone is a bit forced when he could just be a new generation hero to accompany the Skywalker/Solo clan.
     
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    I believe they manipulated Alec Guinness' voice to say "Rey."

    I definitely think she is related to Kenobi. We may get more clues to this theory in Rogue One if it is true.
     
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    They actually took a line from Alec Guiness saying "afraid" and turned it into Rey. Ewan recorded "You have taken your first steps" for TFA.

    We really don't know what code he took after taking his watch over Luke on Tatooine. However, there was definitely something between him and Satine in The Clone Wars.
     
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    Both. They edited a word that Alec said to have it say Rey, and then used Ewan's voice immediately after saying something along the lines of "THese are your first steps"
     
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    They made it apparent that Jedi have the stronge

    The jedi have the strongest mindset. One of them being no females for sexual pleasure. It was alluded to in the PT. OB1 being the light side champion I highly doubt he went against his order.
     
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    This could be true, prior to the end of Revenge of the Sith, however, that may not be the case after. He left that life when he went into exile, even saying that Obi Wan "was a name he had not heard" in a long time. This could mean more than just actually hearing the name, and allude to him leaving that lifestyle behind to become a new identity. After the events of RotS, he could feel that the "rebellious" nature of Qui Gon Jinn was actually in line with the light side of the force. Seeing that Qui Gon taught Obi Wan how to become a force ghost, he could have informed him that the idea that a Jedi could not find love was ridiculous.

    He also bent the rules for Luke as he was "too old" for training under the Jedi Council guidance.

    All of this is pure speculation, as we have no idea at this point. If Obi Wan wouldn't fall in love, due to his devotion to the Jedi way, maybe Rey is a descendant of Qui Gon. We all know he wouldn't have any problems with that.

    Qui Gon and Shmi....That would make Rey a Skywalker as well.
     
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    If Rey was Obi-Wan's granddaughter then her fight with Kylo is poetic; they are reenacting the fight between their grandfathers.

    Similarly when Rey gives the lightsaber to Luke it mirrors Obi-Wan giving Luke the lightsaber in ANH.

    I would be fine with Rey being a Skywalker, but it's less interesting when most or all of the Force-sensitives are Skywalkers.
     
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    Yes it is all very interesting...I found myself thinking about these things since I saw the movie on Dec. 18 and having seen it 4 times already (and planing to see it at least once again) and having listened to the novelization and read the script I strongly believe that the trilogy is truly about Ben Solo and Rey...There is no doubt about it. I hope they don't "water" it down too much with Finn, Poe et co. which are nice enough characters but they need to stand back to the bigger picture that will unfold...

    I find the theory that Rey is a Kenobi of some sort to be a very intriguing possibility that will bring symmetry and bring all films together. (Apart from the other signs that this indeed might be possible, it also is a good way to make stand alone films about Obi-Wan which will become even more interesting for everyone after Rey turns out to be a descendant. I would like an Obi-Wan standalone even without it, but the interest in movies about him will be truly increased if indeed Rey turns out is a Kenobi...In this way not only old fans, but also people who start their interest in Star Wars with these movies will be very interested to see...So it's a win-win situation...)

    Having Anakin's and Kenobi's descendants having intertwined destiny would be brilliant as it will also tie the arc that has undoubtedly gone through all movies. The fates of Skywalker and Kenobi have literally been entwined throughout all films. It will be a great symmetry and stroke of genius to have Luke train a descendant of Kenobi (who trained both his father and himself !) and Rey in turn is the one who saves the descendant of Skywalker who also (I think not coincidentally at all) is named Ben after Kenobi as well. That would be just brilliant. And also making Kylo the only new Skywalker raises the stakes so high and the suspense of how we as an audience would want him to be redeemed...And if there is a love arc between him and Rey as well then it is just perfect in a way that I don't think is forced and it raises all the stakes possible. Also, it will be a reversal of the love story (which was unfortunately very badly done) between Anakin and Padme that canonically according to the PT was the reason for Anakin's fall to the dark side. This time the opposite will happen and Ben Solo will return to the light. IMO he is already set up to be a reverse Anakin, and I think a similar parallel reverse arc will happen romance-wise. Narratively speaking that would be brilliant storytelling. How exciting would that be?! Now that is what I would call - 'Deeply and Profoundly Satisfying' indeed.
     
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    Rey hearing Obi-Wan is like Yoda hearing Qui-Gon Jinn saying, "Anakin! NOOOOO!" In APTC .
     
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