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SPECULATION The Plot of The Force Awakens

Discussion in 'Star Wars: The Force Awakens' started by Darrin, Sep 10, 2014.

  1. Darrin

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    Ok, so trying to guess the plot is a biggie I know. But for any good story you need a few good story telling techniques such as, protagonist, antagonist, pursuing gain with the risk of losing much, etc. With the cast list and good imaginations, we should be able to work something out that could possibly be the plot of episode 7.
    My bet so far, is that it will start with a massive ongoing war between the Republic and the Empire. Luke will be an Obi Wan Kenobi role. Mentor and hero, but lets face it, if he's to overpowered and doesn't face loss, then it's not going to make for a good story, so the antagonist will have to be so 'bad ass' he, or she, is a major threat to the galaxy, including Luke. Who's bad ass enough to challenge Luke? Not many, if any, so you would have to have someone that has an advantage over Luke somehow. A sith with the Kaiburr crystal perhaps? This Sith is found and installed by the Thrawn character? It needs to be something like that.
    I also think Luke will sacrifice himself in some 'win or lose all' situation, but his apprentice, (a new Luke figure) will follow in his footsteps. Not much of a plot outline lol. But it's a start.
    At the end of the day, I think the republic, Luke and the rest of the old gang are going to be really struggling to beat the new antagonist and will eventually lose, handing on the struggle to the next generation.
    What are your thoughts?
     
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    I still think that it will be Han make the sacrifice play and Luke falling from the light.
     
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    Han dying and Luke falling from the light, or at least struggling with the dark side, would be good. These new films definitely need some depth and character development to win over us "old fossils." I hope it's not nice and tidy like, "Luke's Jedi school on Yavin IV" or littered with Expanded Universe (or whatever it's called now) references. I'd like a compelling storyline with believable characters. Maybe Luke is put into a terrible position where he has to once again choose the Force or his friends, or has to choose between Han or Leia and ends up being indirectly responsible for Han's death.
     
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    I don't think Luke will be turned by the dark side in ANY way.

    With all the info we have right now....I lean towards Luke is gone for awhile because of self exile. If it's because he's being hunted to lead enemies away from his friends and the Rebellion/Republic. In the process Luke has only trained very few if ANY Jedi at all.

    Boyega will be the main character in this film who we first meet at the start of the film. Through him he will be how the audience is introduced to everyone in the film. He finds the lightsaber/ship that crashed lands on Tatooine. Boyega is in the middle of trying to escape the Empire/Christie when he runs into Ridley who was investigating the crash herself. After escaping the Empire off Tatooine...Ridley and Boyega run off to see her Dad...Han. This is where I get hazy with what I think UNTIL......

    Eventually, The crew that goes out and looks for Luke find him and the Jedi Hunters/Inquisitors seeking him. One of the enemies ends up being Driver who is Han and Leia's son.

    I think Driver kills Han who sacrifices himself to let the others escape. Through Han's sacrifice Luke realizes he needs to not be afraid of taking up his role as mentor/leader of the new Jedi knights and takes Boyega and Ridley on as his new padawans/students.

    I think Boyega is the main lead in this as a plot device to bring all the old and new characters together finding Luke's lightsaber...and ship. Yeah...I think the crashed ship we heard about on the "desert planet" is from Luke. That's how Boyega finds Luke's weapon. Ridley had been tracking Luke's ship that led her to the crashed site where she meets Boyega. That just makes so much sense after being away from everyone for so long. I do not think he will be the main focus on 8 and 9.

    I get hazy on who Isaac is playing. I've called him "the wild card".

    Gleeson is another tricky one. I have a inkling that he could be an "adopted" son of Luke. For instance, Luke could have found him at a young age and raised him as his own. Could be the only other Jedi besides Luke and be another unofficial "Offspring". I am not 100% sold on this though like I am on the above speculation.

    :)
     
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    Yeah I really like that idea Old Fossil. I don't see Luke turning to the dark side but....your idea about Luke being indirectly responsible for Han's death? That's a good one. He could put himself into exile over it, or, it could urge him to sacrifice himself to make amends and save the day. If that's in the movie I had better bring a box of tissues because I'll be crying my heart out. lol
     
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    I keep mulling it over in my head. I can see both Luke and Han dying, but not in the same movie. Going into this, I would have expected Luke to die in the first chapter like Qui Gon and Obi Wan in I and IV, thus sending the protégé on their quest. And then Han in the 2nd or 3rd part. But if Han really has a large role and if Luke is off camera for most of the film, you would think maybe they're doing it the other way around.
     
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    Ok, how about this? Luke is on the top of the Empire's kill list. He's a marked man so has to lay low with a very limited number of padawans, one or two. Han is engaged in high stake epic battles with some brilliant strategist who is in charge of the new Empire's fleet, a real Thrawn character. Word gets back to Han via a rouge Stormtrooper, that the Empire has been in search of something that will give them the edge, maybe through the use of holocrons. The edge? Still think its a Sith Lord that has a huge advantage with something like the Kaiburr crystal. So it's a race to stop them emplacing this Sith as the new Emperor, and Luke is sought out and asked for help. 'Help us Luke Skywalker, your our only hope.' Who sacrifices themselves? Maybe Han, then it's up to Luke and his padawans to try and stop the new threat. This is going to be fun seeing who came closest to getting it right. lol
     
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    I would love to speculate but with thirty years of back story to fill in for a lead up, there are just too many variables and almost anything is possible. To narrow it down a little, I would go with the escalation rule of drama where then latter problem is greater then the former. So what is more powerful then the Emperor? The power behind the emperor--the mysterious sith power or even the dark side it self. Again, since so little is officially known about the Emperor, anything is possible. But I suspect what ever power led to the formation of the sith, will be the power that threatens the galaxy now with a new order. Here I always think back to Vader when he says, "You don't know the power of the dark side. I MUST obey my master." So that could be a key line to guessing. Also we have Lucas quotes about the sequel trilogy which he said it would be about "passing on what you have learned". I suspect that will be key to Luke's story. I just hope it's more of a true sequel that deals with the ramifications of what came before and not about stretching out the story of the first six movies that I would argue was already wrapped up before the PT but now is completely wrapped up in terms of the Anakin story.
     
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    Okay, here’s my idea of the story based on possible leaks and ideas of others.

    After the opening crawl, we would see a ship in space getting the crap blown out of it by a large upgraded Star Destroyr, referencing the beginning of A New Hope. Cut to inside the destroyer to show Isaac, in Mando gear minus the helmet, in command, the men at the consoles and whatnot are indeed Imperial officers. The ship outside begins to descend and crash lands on Tattooine. Isaac calls on the comm for Christie to take her squad down to the surface to search for survivors.
    Christie, in Stormtrooper gear puts on her helmet and begins loading guns onto her person. John runs up to her in his Storm gear to give a report. He is her top recruit from the academy but she doubts his commitment to return the Empire to its former glory. They board a shuttle, similar to Shuttle Tyderium, and begin to head to Tattooine.
    Cut to the desert, shot over the shoulder of an unknown individual. They have binoculars in hand and see the smoking husk of a destroyed spaceship. The person, shown to be Ridley, is riding on one of the creatures Anakin and friends rode into the podrace hanger in Ep I. She approaches the ship and begins investigating the debris.
    Christie’s ship lands a little while after Ridley enters the ship. Daisy’s steed runs off frightened as the shuttle extends its landing gear. Christie sends her squad of five troopers into the broken ship. After searching they determine the ship was a diversion and that Skywalker had tricked them, again. She says the “emperor/count/whatever the main villain is” will be very displeased with them. She orders her men back to the shuttle but John is still looking around. He comes across Luke’s lightsaber and picks it up. At the same time Ridley finds him and attempts to hit him on the head to knock him out but he turns around just in time and catches her blow. After a small altercation, he falls and hits his head on the console, blacking out. Ridley drags him into a storage area, hidden from the rest of the ship and puts Luke’s saber in her bag.
    Christie gets tired of waiting and begins searching for him. Unable to find him, she determines he deserted like she figured he would. The troopers place charges around the ship to blow it up. Christie and her troopers board their vessel and take off. Ridley throws John over her shoulder and uses the Force to help carry him out of the ship before it blows. The ships explosion knocks her on her face with John landing beside her. The blast wakes him up. He quickly searches for his blaster but discovers he lost it on the ship that just exploded. He removes his helmet and begins arguing with Ridley but he gives up as they are both out in the middle of the desert, a re-hash of the R2/3PO scene when they go separate ways back to civilization. Ridley eventually gets comm signal and calls her father, Han, to come pick her up.
    Christie reports to Isaac and he is unhappy with her. Says something along the lines of when they chose him (a bounty hunter) to track down Luke Skywalker, he never thought he would be lead astray by a decoy ship.
    Han and Chewie, in a ship that isn’t the Falcon (the Falcon is under repair at the new Rebel/Republic base on Dantooine) flies over John, stripped of his storm armor. He immediately turns around and begins running after to chase it. Han’s ship touches down where Ridley is and she begins to board the ship as John, unknowingly using the Force, reaches her and asks to come aboard. She allows him to. Ridley tells Han it was a decoy ship to lure the imperials off of Luke’s trail but she did find his old lightsaber aboard. Han suggests that Luke may have sealed a message in the saber hilt. Upon inspecting it, Ridley discovers a small data disc and puts it into the ship’s computer. A holo of Luke appears and greets Daisy, he knew by the will of the Force she would uncover his message. He is unkempt due to his self-imposed exile. He explains where he is and tells them how to find him. He also says the empire is getting closer to finding him and needs their help. Han reluctantly allows John to stay aboard with them. John figures out who Han is and praises his strategic ploys from Endor and some other battle that happened after RotJ. They enter hyperspace to head to base on Dantooine. After a long talk, John decides that he will join the Rebels/Republic but Daisy still doesn’t trust him.


    That's what I have for now.... I'll update with more later
     
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    Holy crap! You either work for JJ, or you will end up working for him. lol. Well done!
     
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    I wish I worked for him! If I did, I wouldn't be on this site speculating on the plot, I would know it!
    But thanks, I want to be a writer for novels or screenplays.
     
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    Today's rumour seems to confirm what I have been thinking. That Luke is such a bad ass, and is so incredibly powerful in the force that he cannot possibly have an antagonist that is capable of beating him. So....perhaps it's Luke that is the biggest threat? Did I just say that? Blasphemy I hear you cry!!! lol. Hey maybe? Perhaps, because there is no balance to the force because of no dark force users being around, that Luke is perpetually in a struggle with the force. That the force that wants to find balance through him? In other words, he feels a compulsion to use the dark side? Maybe?
     
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    I read the excellent secret history of Star Wars just before the Disney announcement. It had a chapter about a possible 3rd trilogy. A rougth draft was written by Lucas and it involved like confronting "another" that yoda spoke of in episode 4. The trilogy was scrapped and Leigh was revieled to be the other. When Carrie fisher arrived in London to start filming she was quoted as saying maybe Leigh has same problem as the emporer.
     
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    Yeah that could be it actually. Potentially she can be as strong as Luke, and she hasn't been tempted by the dark side. And the force is balanced that way too. Could be on to something there.
     
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    I really like the idea of Jedi and sith being outlawed in a new republic due to there rolls in the war. And luke becoming A recluse haunted by killing and redeaming his father. And Leigh still seeing vader as a murderer who destroyed her home planet
     
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    Oh my god a reply! Thanks. Can't wait for new films. Recent pics really exciting. Would definetly recommend reading secret history of Star Wars. I'm not saying luke and Leigh will duel it out with light sabres. But maybe there different thoughts over vader will come to a head. And lead to a confrontation In some way
     
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    Are you sure that isn't the actuall scrip??? Would fit in with the r a f shoot in uk
     
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    I think the idea of Luke being pushed over the edge with Han's death is more likely...
     
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    Ok, here's the latest spoiler. The title of episode 7 is ‘Revenge of the Hutts,’ and Luke gets swallowed by a Hutt! ;)
     
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    The concept that it's impossible for Luke to fall to the darkside is a bit silly.

    I know, I know... "But, but! He already passed that test in ROTJ!!!!!!!!!"

    Whatever. Dooku was...ahem...an elderly Jedi who turned to the darkside. Are we to pretend that he never had questions before? There can only be on time? Let's be serious.

    What we know about the darkside is that it appeals to people when they are in (dire) need. And Luke saw that before when he defeated Vader because the threat of losing Leia to the corruption of the darkside sent him over the edge...if only for a moment. Obi-Wan did the same thing against Maul when he saw him slay Qui-Gon.

    I pretty much doubt that we will see Leia have much to do with the Force (if anything it's just a well honed intuition that she uses in her political dealings). Why? Because Carry Fisher is old and has played a bitter, sarcastic woman for the majority of her career (which mirrors real life) and I can't imagine that JJ would create some awful storyline where she wields a lightsaber. It's pretty awful.

    The reason I believe MVS is going to be training Driver (and then the former killed by the latter) is because, within, the movie itself, it parallels well. All of the old generation (in a fashion) passes the lightsaber down to the new, younger generation on both sides.

    And if Luke can move mountains and planets and such, what is even the point of making the films? With the kind of power I'm sure he could use the Force to simply crush/implode his enemies. Just saying.
     
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