SPECULATION The Super Weapon and The Force Planet: A New Plot Idea

First off, seriously, what's with the negative ratings that flow around like water?

As for the body of the post, Interesting concept, and I've seen speculation similar to parts of it. Hell, I've had thoughts similar to parts of it myself.

I'm particularly fond of the ideas of corrupt Alliance/Republic groups, as well as the aversion to (or outright witchhunt of) Force-users. Those two concepts alone would set up a good trilogy of rebuilding the galaxy's confidence both in a large-scale government and groups like the Jedi order.

 

I didn't give a negative rating @LTL98' plot is very good.

 

I propose the new Super Weapon uses the Force. It pulls up to a planet and through the Force, (being siphoned off Skywalker and draining the living force from him in the process)pulls the planet out of its orbit there by killing all life on said planet. Also it can hurl moons out of orbit and literally "catapult" them into their host planet. So it's a super force magnifier basically. What do you think, how will it work?

 

Indeed. I've seen someone before ponder the idea that it could possibly be the Republic/Alliance this time that's messing around with a superweapon. It's a pretty neat change-up..

Using great destruction as means to an end, much like the Allies of WWII (the good guys) using carpet-bombing, fire-bombing, and nuclear weapons to get the upper-hand in the war. Gritty stuff is realistic.

 

War not matter were it takes place is never pretty. There is currently another thread discussing this superweapon

 

Something along the lines you mention, perhaps. It's a bit confused with the image we saw that implied a very Death Star-like operation. At least it seems you need to be in "close" proximity to use it.

I do wonder at this... I suppose the ability to move a planet using magnified Force power would be considered more powerful than being able to destroy it with a big laser. Hell, one could possibly sling Death Stars around by utilizing Catapult, making them useless.

I've only somewhat delved into the pre-Republic EU stuff (mostly through Wookieepedia), but it feels like they're drawing some inspiration from there.

 

I like the catapult notion but mainly because it's not another Death Star all over again.

One question though: what kind of a scenario do you envision that would allow for force energy to be siphoned off Luke?

Is this with or without him being aware or is he being held captive somehow?

Is potential harm to his loves ones what keeps him from snapping the evildoers like so many twigs?

There must be a set of special conditions that allow for such a force sucking (don't laugh!) off a Jedi Master.

 

I merged your post with a thread with a similar topic.

 

it's been like that on here for quite a few weeks now. there are threads where someone has clearly given the same negative rating on practically every single post. such a shame, but all forums tend to go that way these days.

maybe we see the world differently as these people.. i'm not sure i like the OP's idea, but i rated it a great post as it is a great post. time and thought went into it, and i found it a great read during my lunchtime.


back on topic..
i'm not overly fond of the "superweapon" idea that we've heard rumours about - so it's not a big thumbs up on the plot idea from me. I do like the idea of split factions, groups hating jedi's etc

 

I think he is held captive, as Kylo Ren/the Empire have Rey, or possibly Han Solo held "hostage", or imply that they do. I think he is actually "inside" this mini Death Star/sputnik looking weapon/vehicle restrained and encapsulated. It moves through space till it is in range of its target planet, moving into its orbit and then wreaking havoc upon said planets gravity and orbit, or flinging it's moon/s into the planet causing catastrophic devastation, and like a domino effect altering the balance and ultimately destroying the entire system. While Luke is being used as fuel, Kylo Ren/Serkis are battling and trying to turn Rey to the Darkside ala the ending of ROTJ, baiting her by explaining her long lost Jedi uncle is actually on board said superweapon, turned, and helping them in their nefarious plans. At the same time Luke is also being manipulated/provoked through deception in an attempt to rile up his anger/Force powers and juice up this SuperWeapon. I think the reasons they want to use this weapon and the details surrounding it are not as clear cut good and evil as in the OT. Things are gray and confusing. A lot of subterfuge involved in the reasoning and plot points of why this is all happening, making Reys moral compass go haywire, and opening her further to manipulation than Luke was when confronted and tested by the Emperor and Vader. Crazy awesome battle between Rey, Finn, and Ren, inter cut with Luke/SuperWeapon coming in range, climax of movie, Rey is beaten, mentally and physically, is ready to join and leave with Ren, when Skywalker breaks free, foils SuperWeapon attack and shows up beating the hell out of Kylo and creating a tidy happy ending. Except................Ren flees with......Rey. Willingly.

 

Yeah, I know, I've been seeing it for weeks too. Sometimes we figure out who it is, but mostly not. It's just annoying is all.

There's the occasional "Luke is held captive and can't use his Force powers" rumor line. It always sounded to me that he can't actively use any Force power, Light or Dark, or it'd activate whatever mechanism. Though that's a very vague rumor at that.

EDIT: Or around the lines of what the person said above me. Got side-tracked during composition and didn't see his post first.

 

Yeah I get about 2 or 3 a day anymore. I'll post something completely on topic with a valid opinion and someone will tag it trolling.

I would rather see an old fashioned technological terror stopped by means we haven't yet seen in a SW film than the weapon be force powered or something.

 

I hope there isn't concept art for this. No teeth? lol

Anyways,
I don’t see the Force as a way to activate a weapon. Maybe the rumor about Luke doing something “really bad” with the Force is true and he actually is so powerful that he moved a moon/planet out of orbit. Once some baddies figured this out, they exiled him as dangerous, but the new Sith baddies decide they can do that too and this “catapult” is their idea of how to copy what Luke did. So the Alliance must turn back to Luke to stop it even though they fear him in ways.

 

I kind of like the idea of Luke being captured and the only way to escape is the use the Force, but if Luke uses the Force he unleashes the crazy Force-powered planet weapon. Maybe we can see Coruscant get blown up since it is the center of the Galaxy's government (whether it's Republic or Empire) by this 3rd faction @Bluestreaking has come up with.

 

Would be an awesome story…
But, like @Willybobo asked, how do you go about siphoning Force power from someone, or how do you create something that is powered only by the force.
Another option is, they pull an old school Adam West Batman move, and make it something similar to this:
There is a kyber crystal, inside a tiny shielded box…stay with me…
In this tiny box, the bottom and top of the box are a trigger that’s set off to fire the weapon if touched by the kyber crystal. The only way to keep this crystal from touching the top or the bottom, is for Luke to continually hold it with the Force. His full concentration on it at all times. If he wavers, many lives are lost. One thought goes away from holding this thing up forever, and it touches the top/bottom.
Star Wars: Episode Saw-ven

 

Perfect! I really like that idea.

 

Who could create a force powered weapon? That seems like something only an insanely powerful force user could even dream of creating. I doubt Luke would create a weapon of mass destruction. If someone else created it how would it know that Luke was using the force? For me that kind of kills the theory that Luke will activate the weapon if he uses the force, it just seems so over complicated. Like the OT, I would rather have great character development then them trying to explain away this weapon.

This could be more likely but I'm just not convinced they are going to make the weapon in TFA have some forced based theme. I think the focus of the force will be with the new characters and how they begin to understand it. I don't really want Luke's reveal to be him holding a box and then doing it for most of the movie either.

 

I think the person who originally shared this rumor said the planet (Moraband I believe) was the weapon, created by ancient Sith. I'm assuming they activated it after they captured Luke and forced him to stay in check or it would "fire mah lazah." They probably saw Luke as a threat and a way to power the weapon since he is stronger than they are.