The source of the Dark Side

Darth Nihilus from the KOTOR series was someone who fed off the force - absorbed force energy from jedi.
he was even referred to as a 'wound in the force' interestingly.

he has been cast away to the abyss that is Legends sadly.. but a character like this on the big screen would certainly be interesting.
http://starwars.wikia.com/wiki/Darth_Nihilus

of course... the chap who wrote the 4chan article may just have made it up using info from Nihilus

 

Just so I have some clue or concept on what that "Source" might be.

We know that the Dark Side used by the Sith in its current form is unnatural. But we also have natural occurences of the Dark Side that are more random and normal to find, right? Animals or even sentient beings. But is this Source the first Dark Side anomalie that came to existence? Or is this something that is deliberatly made to be strong in the Dark Side...A Planet? An Artefact?

 

An early rumour that I remember reading, was that Luke had gone into hiding to guard and ancient Sith tomb. That ties in with the theory of the KOR being Sith relic hunters, wanting artifacts to aid the FO and Luke making sure they don't lay their hands on them. This could be Kyber crystals, and as we've read from various sources that they were in short supply across the galaxy. Which would also perhaps explain the reason why Mexican caves are being used for Episode VIII shoots, maybe there's a cave full of Kyber crystals?

In TFA, Rey calls to Anakin's saber and it flies into her hand - because it contains a correct (pure) Jedi crystal?
Kylo can't pull it to himself, due to his commitment to the dark side and his use of a corrupted crystal?

This is the only road I'd want them to go down, if they were trying to pass off an actual, physical "source of the dark side". You either go toward the light, or give in to your negative emotions and utilize the dark side of the force - augmenting it with Kyber crystals.

 

I think that the fact the lightsaber induced a flashback in Rey perhaps shows how they are now going down the path of objects possessing magical powers.
Obviously, we kind of had this with the evil cave on Dagobah and in a picture of a concept art meeting for TFA that scene is on a big screen in the background.
So I think there is definitely some scope for that - the idea that the Dark Side can imbue itself in objects. That could be what the source is that Palpatine sensed.
It wouldn't make sense for it to be the foundation of or root of the Dark Side. That'd be weird.
But personally, I think it should be Plagueis...I mean Snoke.
Po-tay-to Po-tar-to.

 

i guess we'll have to see, but i don't think that will happen.

there is precedent for it.. certainly in terms of a location:-
"That place... is strong with the dark side of the Force. A domain of evil it is. In you must go. "

yoda also mentions the force being around Luke:
"You must feel the Force around you; here, between you, me, the tree, the rock, everywhere, yes. Even between the land and the ship."

we also hear the term.. "the will of the force" (qui gon? my memory fails me sadly)

so as Rey "awakens".. is it not possible that when she is near the lightsaber the Will of the force triggers the vision/memories?
the force would be between her and the lightsaber - yes?

it would all be a bit LOTR if it were the objects themselves doing mystical 'things', i find it a bit easier to digest that the 'force' itself is triggering these things.

Rey was able to pull the lightsaber instead of Kylo because she was as one with the force. she was calm.. at peace.


apologies, i'm waffling lol. back on topic...

if the cave on dagobah could be strong with the dark side of the force, then surely there are places far darker.. far more evil?
Valley of the dark lords on moraband would surely be a likely candidate for such a place?

 

Oh I agree, just saying if they do go down that path that might be the reason. But I don't like magical lightsabers - retcon alert!
But I think it should be a place where something evil happened or a person himself.

 

Maybe the "source of the dark side" is whatever caused The Force to fall out of balance? We know that The Force both affects and is affected by that which is sensitive to it, so I think that the dark side originates with something or someone that/who by drawing on The Force for its evil purpose, "pollutes" The Force. Or maybe the dark side is truly a separate entity from The Force itself.

 

http://starwars.wikia.com/wiki/Dark_side_of_the_Force

 

cave crysyalslike these?
http://www.crystalinks.com/mexicocrystals.html

 

And they eat far too many cookies, too!

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And a powerful
ally it is. Life creates it, makes
it grow. Its energy surrounds us
and binds us. Luminous beings
are we...not this crude matter.
You must feel the Force around you.
Here, between you... me... the
tree... the rock... everywhere!
Yes, even between this land and
that ship!

The Force is the Force....Luke and Vader had the exact same powers (including Force Choke), and yet one was a Light Sider and one was a Dark Sider. Heck, Anakin didn't receive any new powers when he changed from Jedi to Sith.

"Dark" and "Light" refer to the intent of the user....how one uses the Force.

Interesting aside, in the Russian novel series Night Watch, certain people were able to draw their powers from the energy of people around them, in a manner similar to the concept of the Force. One of the bad guys discovered a power that allowed him to turn every person he saw to turn into a vampire, and he flew to the moon so that he could turn everyone on Earth into a vampire. However, once he'd made it to the moon, he had no powers, because he wasn't around any people to draw energy from. It would be interesting if a lifeless zone lacked the Force, kinda like being around ysalamir or the Yuuzhan Vong (Yes, I know....EU....just sayin')

 

i completely agree they are only good or evil from a certain point of view.

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The source of the dark side runs through everything like the force itself. it surrounds and penetrates us the dark and the light.

 

I'm skeptical at this point that the Acolytes of the Beyond have any relationship to any character, even Snoke, from TFA. I don't think they will appear in this trilogy at all.

I also do not think that the race to find the source of the Dark Side is related to the race to find Luke. We also do not know if this source truly exists the way the emperor perceived it to exist. However, the concept of finding the source of the Dark Side (and the light) is something that I can see popping up in future movies.

I must say though, this is a very nice thread because it's a whole bunch of stuff that gets people thinking and really hasn't been touched upon enough on these forums!

 

looking to be good