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SPOILER TIE Fighter life support?

Discussion in 'Star Wars: Rebels' started by Lord Sidious 49, Mar 3, 2015.

  1. Lord Sidious 49

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    So I watched the finale of Season 1 (which ended phenomenally, despite a rocky start to the show in my personal opinion), but one thing stuck out to me as a minor detail. When the crew escaped the Sovereign in TIEs after rescuing Kanan, I noticed they flew through space without using some sort of personal life support system like TIE pilots did. I know that mainline TIEs had no individual life support in the Legends continuity, but I would have assumed they did in the canon one as well, or else why would TIE pilots wear that suit? It just struck me as odd. Any insight would be helpful.
     
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    That went off in my mind too. I'm pretty sure the average TIE fighter doesn't have on board life support, shields, or a hyperdrive.
     
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    In the canon novel Takin, it was stated that TIEs and Vwings do not have reliable life support, and that the pilot must wear his own. I take that to mean that some basic life support exists in a TIE, probably just a simple pressurized cockpit without C02 scrubbers or stuff like that. You probably could survive for a short time in a TIE without life support, but staying in it longer than the air in the cockpit lasts would not be advised.
     
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    That's a very interesting factoid. I suppose it could work out that you get maybe an hour or simply minutes before you would lose consciousness without the helmet and flight suit.

    I still think there's a bit of a retcon happening. We've seen them often sitting, landing, and taking off on their wings in the show, but what one can find on the internet implies that (prior to Rebels at least) such actions required special equipment to be done without damage to the ship.

    A minor retcon I'd say, still works out.
     
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    Yeah I remember reading that in Tarkin, but I was just confused about this little part.
     
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    They're pretty tough on continuity in the story group,so i'm sure at some point it will make sense.PLUS,Ezra and crew may have modified theirs and the Inquisitor's isn't exactly standard issue Tie...
     
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    Once the hatch is sealed, there would still be oxygen inside, just not enough to last anyone for a significant amount of time.

    They weren't in the TIEs for long at all.
     
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    That is my take on it as well. No reconning needed.
     
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    I noticed that too then remembered it's just a cartoon.

    Same when they landed hard on the wings. Heh

    eh, What can you do? *Shrugs*

    After the prequels I don't worry about stuff like that anymore. I'm just grateful it's watchable.
     
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    Follow McQuarrie's suggestions, for example (see picture enclosed) ;-)

    And I'd still like to see how you climb into a TIE fighter when you don't have a ladder around, like in that episode where the pilots entered the bar (and had their fighters parked outside).

    And are we finally going to see the long-range TIE fighter (because Ben identified the standard TIE as a "short-range fighter") or can we safely assume that's actually Vader's TIE fighter?
     

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    its the same kind of ladder like you see luke use on Dagobah in ESB.
    seriously.. watch the scene again when he's leaving for bespin and talking to yoda and ben. keep your eye on the yellow ladder
    ;)
     
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    Actually, what's funny is it seems like the X-wings have not one but two ladders, at least in some scenes.

    I still have no clue where either of them come from though.

    [​IMG]
     
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    ^^ The yellow one appears to be a rigid solid one flight crews usually use. The smaller one appears to be one that can *somehow* be stashed aboard the X-Wing. Perhaps an inflatable one which looks rigid once blown up (yeah, sounds odd but we're dealing with advanced science fiction technology, right?)
     

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    its called a gaffe or continuity issue

    it was there in one scene and gone a second later

    the more important reason: having them show luke somehow stow the ladder would of ruined the emotion and flow of the scene.
    dont worry about little things like that

    thats why they invented editing
    if you cant just enjoy the moment imagine it collapses and stores automatically at the press of a button
     
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    The Hasbro 3.75" Wedge X-Wing from a few years back came with two ladders. The parts list refers to the yellow one as the crew ladder, and the brown as a maintenance ladder. Here they are with the Trench Run T-65-

    1-hasb-a (5)-png.jpg

    I built the Kotobukiya 1/35 T-65 model and it came with just the one yellow ladder, and it's also referred to in the instructions as the crew ladder. The Kotobukiya T-65 has full interior detailing, and I thought that there might be parts included to represent a retractable ladder of some sort in the lower fuselage, but it has none-

    koto-x.PNG koto-x-2.PNG koto3.jpg

    As Daffy says, that's why they invented editing. :D


    On somewhat the same subject, artist Joshua Viers depicts Vader's TIE with a built in retractable boarding ladder-

    x-1ww.jpg
     
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    It was a short hop,.. Even if there was no life support as long as the cockpit was vacuum tight, I'd wager a 4 minute flight would be ok.
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    The second is to service the astromech/top hence the platform.
     
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    Very beautiful artwork, thanks for sharing it. For the short-range TIE fighter I'd believe some kind of hoisting winch at the back could do the job, but that wouldn't work with Vader's fighter because of the (fuel?) wing attached to its back.

    Alternately, the lower part of the cockpit could be extended all the way to the ground, that then could work for all TIE fighters (except the TIE twin pod spacecraft) and make those boarding ladders "X-Wing style" redundant.
     
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    Yeah, that piece of art is outstanding. Joshua Viers SW concept art is some of the best I've ever seen.

    These are my favorites-

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    ^^ Blast it, now THAT looks like the kind of X-Wing I would have anticipated for The Force Awakens...
     
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