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that makes sense as to why they could run off and tackle snoke together, if she already knows his intentions. could it also be against the better judgement of someone else...

'this is not going to go the way you think'

 

Couple this with the other tidbit in a Kylo’s page - that Snoke specifically wanted him as an apprentice because he believed only he Skywalker bloodline could defeat Luke....and that we know he now wants Rey....

I think Rey Solo has a least a 50/50 shot.

 

That will be a throw away. Seems like Kylo and Rey are gonna be "raw strength". Which still makes no sense.

Ben can be close, but for Rey, you don't have a random be as powerful as the young boy who was born from the force

 

it's hard for me to buy into as well.

 

Um, why not? Anakin was a random. I hope Rey is a Skywalker, but it feels very unlikely at this point. It's too obvious.

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It still boggles my mind that people don't think it's notable that Kylo thinks he has communed with Vader ("Show me again, grandfather"). Either Vader is back, or Luke is referring to Snoke, and Rey is on a whole other level. Remember when Kylo interrogated Rey, and she figured out he worries he will never be as powerful as Vader? She played him with almost no training.

 

Apparently it isn't too likely, because everyone thinks otherwise.

Also, Anakin wasn't a random lol. He literally was force Jesus. Anakin Skywalker was a messiac character, in terms of his existence. Jesus, son of god.

Anakin son of the force. Call it Plagueis, call it Sheev, call it midichlorians, whatever. No one boned Schmi and got her pregnant. She was chosen by the force to bare it's physical embodiment. Anakin was born from the force. His tragedy dominated the galaxy and the force as he lived, and his family had that same impact.

That is TOTALLY different and vastly less random than some random man and woman giving birth to a child with Skywalker-like power. It just is so out of left field and doesnt fit the narrative Lucas created. Anakin and his family are more or less embodiments of the force. Thats why they are so crucial to the events of the galaxy. They are the force nexuses, in a way. Which, evidentally Rey is. But there is a LONG mythology as to why Skywalkers are like this. Rey absolutely NEEDS a reason why she is this powerful if she isn't related. There has to be a specific "will of force/force selection" why she is, if she isn't related. Otherwise, its just poor storytelling and silly fan fiction.

And again, you don't get force users with a greater connection innately to the force than Anakin. That was the point of his story and tragedy.

Rey upsurping that, as an unrelated, minimizes Anakin's story, and the mythology of his role in the force, and makes him much MUCH less of a special case. Which again, is the point of his story.

I dont get why people are just immune to this. This series has potential to be good and great, but also has real potential to absolutely ruin Star Wars and disrespect Lucus' vision much worse than the prequels did ever did. Star Wars is in a transitional state

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She isn't on another level. It makes no sense.

 

Anakin was conceived by the Force so no, he was not a random nobody whose origin remained unexplained.

 

And there's no reason to think Rey isn't the same.

 

Well, Rey is a strong and independent woman and that is why she is so terrific. I mean, it would not surprise me if that is the only explanation Kathleen Kennedy finds suitable.

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We shall see. Maybe her gender is the only explanation.

 

Awesome. Truth.

She doesn’t have to be Solowalker (but she likely is)....but she does have to be somebody whether that’s Kenobi, or Palpatine, or clone, or Force made (like Anakin) or whatever else...

Her being able to beat the grandchild of the man literally BORN OF THE FORCE needs serious explanation - not just a random born to some imperials.

It would violate all the previous films structure and rules.

 

I don't want K-2SO to give me the % on that

Spoiler: computing

It's ... High

 

Anakin is definitely a ranom, but he is crucial to the specific story that George Lucas was trying to tell...to add Rey out of the blue to that specific story only to diminish Anakin's raw strength makes no sense to me until I see the movie.
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The films yes, the canon no. You don't have to be a child of a force user to be force sensitive. It seems that way though because we've only been following one family this whole time. I honestly think they're preparing us for her parents to be "Dick and Jane Smith". That isn't the part that they have to get right or nail though, it's her connection to the force, and there are ways to explain it other than just, "Oh it was inherited"... but those reasons haven't really been explored in the films yet.

 

But Rey is not Force sensitive, she is basically already a jedi without any kind of training as far as we know. This has to be explained and it has to be explained in the movies, not in some awful book by Wendig.

 

I completely 100% agree with you. And yeah, I just refer to every force user as "force sensitive" but you're right. They have to absolutely address it in the films. If she ends up being a nobody and they just try and gloss over how she's so powerful in the force, that's a no go. But I won't be upset if she's a nobody as long as we get an explanation as to why she has such a powerful connection to the force.

 

I am curious as to why Snoke believed that only a Skywalker could end the Jedi. Was there another prophecy? Did Luke knew about that prophecy? Perhaps Luke ignored the prophecy in starting the new Jedi Order, and as a result felt very guilty when all those Jedi students were killed by Ben.

Daisy had said in an interview that Rey was not born via immaculate conception, so we can rule out another virgin-birth scenario like Anakin's.

 

Kenobi was a jedi master. Is Rey a jedi master?

 

So jedi has nothing to do with wisdom but just fighting with a lightsaber ?

How is Rey a jedi ? She's definitely not.