VISUAL DICTIONARY HAS LEAKED!

Most important revelation is actually this: Porgs are actually brainless creatures !

 

Doesn't have to be in the novel. It is obvious when he mentions the force she closes her eyes and things change.

 

It seemed pretty obvious to me that this is what happened

 

And the force theme music kicks in.

 

The real reason is she's super force sensitive. She self trained in combat and piloting while on Jakku, and has the force as an ally. She might be the bloodline of some very powerful people. Anakin Skywalker was the "only human" that could race Pods because of his Jedi reflexes. His intelligence was enhanced by the force as well enabling him to repair and build things most kids probably couldn't. He didn't go to Pod Race school or piloting school or droid builders school. He could just do it!

The common theme is the pure of heart (Rey, little Ani) seem to be very quick learners with no outside notions that they cannot do something. I also believe Rey picked up some of Ren's knowledge when Kylo entered her mind.

Now honestly this subject has gone away from anything to do with the VD leak.

I think most everyone is missing this line from the book...


I read this as Luke figured out that there is no point in having Jedi as they cannot prevent good and evil from fighting each other. They cannot prevent wars. That having force trained super-beings only causes more devastation than if the force was rejected and not used.

I also read this as Disney's way of saying "each cycle, NEW TRILOGY OF MOVIES!!"

 

I was not 100% serious. Please, cut the crap. This pathetic "You hate women!"-accusation will not win you any debates.

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So you guessed. I accept that.

 

This is a big thing that I think gets overlooked by a lot of people. There's never a moment in TFA where Rey is like, "Psshhh The Force? Give me a break". Rey believes in The Force, she's very open to it. Believing and opening yourself up to it is really the biggest hurdle someone has to overcome in their training. She's already done that.

 

Even evil people use the Force, that's the point of this talk right ?

 

EXACTLY!!!! It violates all previous rules. It ALSO takes away from the significance of Anakin, and makes him less of a special case. Just 70 years later in the span of a universe do we have another force born messiac figure? Eh.

 

This is such a scapegoat.

Christ, it isn't about her being a girl. Hux was more or less saying "hopefully this isn't how it is". It DOES happen in film..look at the garbage that is Neighbors 2.

Most of us would feel the same if it was a male character. Sex has nothing to do with it. Its a random being exceptional to the point where it defies previous force mythos.

There is too much surrounding the nature of the Skywalker family in the force. They are more impactful. The story is more active. If a random character has similar potential and can defeat the grandson of the chosen one, the character either HAS to be related, or of significance to the force specifically. An explanation is 100% needed. Otherwise it disregards previously established mythology for the sake of money making

 

So what ? Carl Lewis had to be Jesse Owens's son ? What message do you send to kids ? You can't be someone if your family is not known ?

Why do you want to tie everything ? Are Yoda's parents force sensitive ? Are Obi Wan Kenobi's parents jedi ? Are Palpatine's parents force users ?

No they aren't.

 

Anakin was the most powerful at his time. We still don't know for sure of he was an unnatural dark side experiment by Palpy. He fulfilled his destiny, to destroy the Sith. But guess what, every day someone is born that will be faster, stronger, smarter than someone before them. Why can't Rey end up equally powerful?

P.S. it's entertainment, there are no rules!

 

Putting aside to the most talked topics...
Finn's pages are adorable (and quite interesting)

- "In a gesture of friendship, Poe Dameron repaired Finn's jacket while he recovered."
That's sweet.
- "The last thing he [Finn] recalls seeing before being plunged into unconsciousness was Rey being threatened by Kylo Ren. First Order trainig psyche-logs, not allowing for such deep personal loyalties, would clinically describe Finn's behavior as "imprinting". He knows it to be something deeper."
That's even more sweet. And interesting. It's not a force bond, but I think it has to have a consequence in the story.
Otherwise why to put in this element?

 

Anakin couldn't do jedi mindtricks, or view into other people's minds without training. He couldn't do a force pull and out pull a strong force user without training. If Anakin couldn't do that without training.. NO ONE should be able to. Because again, Anakin's raw power even almost twice as powerful as yoda.

Rey displayed something "without training" even Anakin couldn't.

So logically, she either was previously trained (again, look to TFA Novel.. Kylo Ren to Rey "it IS you") or she is someone of significance. She has been trained before. So it is all good

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*Sigh*. Anakin was a messiac character. The man who created the universe said this. What you are describing is a recontinuation, which are messy.

Anakin was to be the most powerful forxe user ever. His words, Lucas' words, Luke's power in the old canon..its part of his story.

Making someone upsurp that so soon absolutely minimizes the mythology of his story. Thats why. Recontinuation doesn't change that

 

As said Anakin was there to destroy the sith not darkness.

 

awwww ~ it is sweet!

i wonder if Finn's "imprinting" is a kind of FS--maybe one of the things they are doing with the ST is showing a broader range of FS possibilities.
like Chirrut in Rogue One. i would really love this idea because the levitating and light saber stuff just isn't frankly all that interesting to me.
i would love a range of FS that's more emotional or "impressionistic" for lack of a better term.

or she's just a prodigy.
rare, unique, and very special in her own way.

 

So now I am sending a bad message to parents and kids? Good grief

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Clearly some disagree, some agree with me. We'll agree to disagree. We all love Star Wars, not worth debating

 

You are going to have to accept two things. 1. We don’t know if Rey minimizes anything Anakin did yet and 2. George’s vision was for a finite end to this story. His orginal vision didn’t take into account a new trilogy with endless movies on the horizon. So please use some common sense and accept that newer and stronger heroes may emerge from these stories.

 

9 year old Anakin who had little understanding of what the force was or did, and had absolutely no idea he himself was highly Force sensitive vs. a 19 year old Rey who in her own words, "Always knew something was inside her" and who is also very open to the idea, concept and power of the Force. Again, like I said earlier... that's something a lot of people seem to overlook. Opening yourself up to the Force is half the battle, Rey had already done that on her own.