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What Happens to Luke?

Discussion in 'Star Wars: The Last Jedi' started by JTerry, Dec 22, 2017.

  1. JTerry

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    Think about it. The whole ordeal with the dice. Why Luke saw a binary sunset on a planet which doesn’t have two suns. Is all explained by him teleporting somewhere like Tatooine. It’s to make the audience think he’s dead and he will return in the episode 9 to fish closure with Kylo. Hence the statement ‘ cya around kiddo’

    If he was really dead his robot hand wouldn’t have dissapeared with him it would have fallen to the ground,so Luke must still be alive.

    And what killed over exertion? C’mon he’s chugging blue milk surely it has plenty of vitamins and minerals to keep him going. Living things are the force, milk comes from living things hence his force powers being boosted from milk.

    Now this thread isn’t obviously 100% serious however does anyone actually have an explanation for what I said above? Or is it just bad writing with the hand thing?
     
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    Luke is dead because the film makers do not want him to overshadow Rey.
     
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    He is not dead.

    Please don't tell me anyone fell for that. He will be back.
     
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    Ahch-To has two suns (source: http://starwars.wikia.com/wiki/Ahch-To). The second was just hidden behind clouds for some of the sequence. Luke got to see the binary sunset in his last seconds.

    I don't think anyone doesn't think we'll see him in 9 in a fairly present role. In terms of wether he is truly dead? I do think so, but the definition of this has kind of been blurred. Maybe Luke has manifested himself in a much more physical form than just a force ghost. Who knows

    I'd put my money on "dead, but present as ghost in ep.9"

    But as we've heard, "no one is ever truley gone"
     
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    Can you explain his robot hand disappearing with him?
     
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    Luke will back in Star Wars 10 with all guns blazing.

    You have all been had.
     
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    Not with 100% certainty no.
    It would be weird to have his hand just plonk down after he seemingly 'dies'. So for the sake of that maybe.
    Or maybe you can choose what to take with you? I'm not sure.

    That is interesting, but what is the alternative?
    He has teleported somewhere else? I don't see where this would be going, unless JJ is ready to get real crazy

    Just had a thought though. In the OT did Alec Guiness Obi-Wan ascend to the force butt ass naked?
    Im assuming he appeared there with his clothes on.
    Im hoping..
     
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    You can take whatever form you wish. Darth Vader doesn’t appear as a burned man at the end of ROTJ. Or with his suit of course.

    Of course when you become one with he force as Obi Wan and Yoda did they didn’t take anything with them it wouldn’t make sense.

    It wouldn’t be too hard to film the scene without the hand having to fall and just have it near Luke’s robes.

    I agree teleporting is far fetched and this isn’t a theory or anything like that but it’s the best I’ve got lol.

    I don’t get how the dice remained after his death too if he truly died or how Rey held illusionary dice.
     
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    Correct me if I am wrong (I have only seen the film once), but all we see is Luke's hippy clothes fall to the ground. We did not see him die.

    No Spoilers..well yes there are spoilers.

    Methinks, he dropped his monk clothes and is headed for his x wing. We saw his x wing in the water during the film. Why would they show that ????

    Luke is on his why to join the fight.
     
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    Is this still the denial stage or are we arriving at bargaining?

    On a serious note:
    He is not dead no - he has become one with the force (I'm not sure the decision was forced on him by exhaustion either - Rey and Leia felt peace and purpose which can be read in different ways). The film willingly refrains from spelling it out one way or the other.

    On a slightly related note: Yoda bringing down lighting on the tree is a huge lore changer. For the first time ever I'm getting an inkling of what Obi Wan meant about becoming more powerful than Darth could possibly imagine.
    The doors for IX are wide open in all sorts of exciting ways.
     
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    It's funny I had a thought like this, that if TLJ proves to be too much of a thorn in Disney's side maybe they'll try this pivot but I think the teleportation thing is probably a non-starter. Leia and Rey both acknowledge that they feel Luke leave don't they?
     
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    All they have to do is get rid of the fading out death shot. That's all they have to do to bring Luke back.
     
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    i'm still mulling all the other pieces regarding Luke's "death", but the movie does demonstrate that projected things can have substance.
    it's possible Luke imbued it with such so that Leia could touch it (and Ben as well).

    when Rey runs outside the hut, Ben has to physically move to go find her again (he slides into the hallway).
    Ben's face is wet after standing in the "rain" with Rey.
    they touch each other in the hut (could argue whether they actually feel one another, but i think they do).

    a lot of this might need chalking up to faith.
    the Force works in mysterious ways and we're seeing new things.
    for me it's intriguing rather than distracting.

    and don't forget too that Luke made physical contact with his Vader/Self in the Dagobah cave, so there is a wee little bit of precedent.
     
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    In the nude? I too ponder he crashed X Wing however what purpose it served showing the audience that.
     
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    I don't remember any footage regarding his robot hand, but I'm not sure why it is relevant at this point. Robes seem to stay behind when they die, but all the force ghosts appear in full attire. (oh-my-gato plot holes)

    I do remember Kylo picking up the dice and them disappearing in his palm tho.
     
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    Very much agree, in relative turns this force ghost thing is a new phenomenon, I would expect an increase of usage/ability by the four, now five Jedi who have learned of it.
     
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    Maybe. I think it’s still unclear if projected things have substance. Otherwise could Luke have had substance against Kylo when he projected himself and finished off Kylo then and there?

    And in regards to the Dagobah cave no one was with Luke at the time so all we saw was Luke feeling he had physical contact with Vader but could have just been an illusion like hallucination drugs may bestow on someone.

    I did find the kylo, Rey force link a bit weird and how he left rain I don’t know how that works. So maybe it’s a new direction they’re going in with the force.
     
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    It is not crashed !! He landed it there. He will use the force to get out again....he he used to that lol.

    Luke is not dead and he will fly that X wing.
     
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    Well the robot hand didn’t stay behind. Why wouldn’t it?
     
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    It is a poignant image seeing Luke's X-wing as a derelict because the very same ship is used as a metaphor for Luke's lack of perspective / narrow-mindedness in ESB.
    Did he crash it there? Did he submerge it there on purpose?
     
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