What if the prequels were good?

To me this set everything in motion for the next 2 movies being rushed. Lets just say for the sake argument, Lucas combined elements of Episode 1 & Episode 2 with an older Anakin and the focus on Kenobi? Then he could have stretched out Episode 3 to 2 movies being Episode II & III, and I think the turn scene and alot of other plot points wouldn't have felt so rushed.

My outline would have been:

Episode 1: Obiwan finds Anakin (same age as Luke), and they go off on an adventure to save Naboo. We get a whole movie of them yucking it up and showing the great friendship that was talked about, while Anakin meets and falls in love with Queen Padme.

Episode 2: Anakin/Padme get secretly married but Anakin starts to fall down the dark due to circumstances (his mother is murdered, the Jedi council is frustrating him, the Clone Wars, etc.) The end of the movie he turns to the darkside setting up a huge climax for the next movie.

Episode 3: Anakin secretly starts hunting down the Jedi for Palpatine, and Kenobi & Yoda finally find out and realize they been played by Palpatine all along. Anakin/Kenobi fight and Palpatine/Yoda fight. After Padme has the twins she is forced to decide which twin to take with her to Alderran as they will be threat if they are all in one place. She has a Sophies Choice scene and decides to take Leia, while she is crying as Luke is taken by Obiwan to Tatooine......

 

Why does everyone advocate for the sheer bantha poodoo this 'What If' guy is putting up in YouTube. I mean, just look at his stories:

1) No one wants to see a love triangle in a space epic ... It'll just lead towards a pointless skirmish arisen by both Obi-Wan and Anakin until it constitutes nothing but a hypocrisy against Obi-Wan's wisdom as a Jedi Knight.
2) EVERYTHING in Episode I was done WRONG. Everything! Nothing can fix it.Best thing to do is scrape all of it off and reiterate a brand new plot.
3) Politics and Star Wars should NEVER converge. Perhaps a gist of it, but not a whole blast load of it.
4) Obi-Wan gaining any sort of anger, envy, and act of malice towards Anakin will merely prove him to be a douchey character with a sense of 'Blast you, I should be the strongest' and an abrupt cockiness a Jedi Knight should never deliver. Those characteristics were not at all what Obi-Wan was consisted of in the originals.
5) The Force being a deflective mysticism that can be bounced off by the robes of another Jedi Knight???!!!! Sidious is a DARK LORD, not some little patty-whack dumb-ass who doesn't know the difference between the mere condolences of another person's feelings.


1) Lol, more shitty politics?! Is this Steven Spielberg's reiteration of 'Lincoln' or is this just another shitty fan fic video that was posted up on YouTube that was made just to make sweaty fanboys horny?
2) Okay, so this Owen character is now Anakin's bottom Vhlor out of the bloom (despite how Owen was actually portrayed as an austere character that prefers the condolence of safety rather than excitement)? GREAT STORYTELLING, MAN!
3) "This should just be an epic space battle" ... and yet over a quarter of this video conveys political contrivances and pointless conversations among poorly characterized characters.
4) So, let me get this straight ... Dooku's a good guy, but he is trying to gain the trust of a swarm of characters he has little to no reason to trust to, Obi-Wan is slowly descending towards the dark side from the malevolent manslaughter caused towards his former master by the scourge of a Sith Lord, and Padme is running around, barking orders, making sure justice and liberty is prevailing in the Senate ... all while Anakin is sitting on a bed, doing ABSOLUTELY NOTHING!? Weren't the Prequels supposed to transition Anakin's fall towards the dark side instead of a plethora of storylines that has nothing to do with the main character of the story?

No wonder this asshat has not released a 'Part 3' towards his pathetic brand of 'What If' Storylines. Thanks for wasting the thirty minutes I will never get back, you front-running Rebelscum.

 

The intent of these videos is just to dream up a fantasy, develop a story that is just as poorly written as the Prequels were, and then label them 'better than George Lucas' prequels just because this crusty, faggoty Andy says so. I'd guarantee you that if we went back in time, implemented the Prequels' with the same 'storyline' this son of a Vhlor has developed, and made a trilogy out of it, everyone would still be getting their panties piled up in a bunch, say how horrendous the Prequels were, and then come up with an evens shittier storyline and label it 'better than the Prequels, just because we said so'. As I have said, the reason why this ****** hasn't released 'Part 3' to his 'What If' installment is because he knows that the stories he came up with transcends into a mere pile of bantha poodoo ... And this is all coming from a guy who resents Episode I and II.

Thank God that people like him aren't at all associated with anything related towards LucasFilm or Star Wars.

 

All of that you said is definitely true. But if you want to get people to take your comment seriously, I wouldn't like just start saying curse words and junk. Also I disagree that these videos were bad, at least the plot this guy outlined could be made into a movie, instead of...whatever the Prequels were. A series of visual imagery and sound effects, but definitely not a movie.

Also who is voting everybody "Pathetic" on this thread? That sucks.

 

If they were only good then it'd be a step done from where they are which is great.

 

There were indeed stories conveyed in the Prequels. They were just not on par with the glory of the Classics.

 

He said that he is making Revenge of the Sith, its just not done yet.

But don't make the mistake that Sith is any good just because it was dark. Like the other two Prequels, nothing any character does or says makes any sense and its a bunch of crappy un-Star Wars-like CGI images flashing past the screen. However Sith goes out of its way to not just be stupid, but also be boring! There is an obvious divide between the "talking scenes" and the "action scenes", and both are boring, but for different reasons. The talking scenes in Sith are two, or occasionally three people sitting on a couch and talking, or walking down a hall and talking, or standing in a room and talking, usually in soap opera-like shot-reverse-shot format. The action scenes, on the other hand, are exceedingly long, visually tiring, cartoonish, no-stakes, unexciting, and nonsensical. Sith also reveals that Anakin wasn't "seduced by the dark side of the Force", he was just tricked into it! He believed the Emperor's obvious lies like an idiot, and the Emperor's plan was stupid too. I thought it was clever when I was a little kid, like it was paralleling the political situation of the United States, but now that I'm older its so painfully obvious. The allegory is painfully obvious, and the fact that the Emperor is behind it all should of been equally painfully obvious to the cast of stupid, flat, boring, cardboard cut-out "characters".

But Sith is still not quite as bad as Attack of the Clones.

 

Woah wait, I was totally with you (Except Order 66, I thought it was extremely dumb - Ben Kenobi said Darth Vader hunted down and destroyed the Jedi knights, but all he did in Sith was murder a few children, ultimately making the entire character of Darth Vader worthless. It was pretty much told to the audience in the Original Trilogy that the Emperor seduced Anakin to the dark side of the Force so that he could destroy the last of the Jedi knights, who were one of the two things standing in the way of him gaining total control of the Galactic Empire, the other being the Imperial Senate, dissolved at the beginning of Star Wars.)

Hold on I got side tracked. I was totally with you until this last bit. What huge errors in Return of the Jedi are you referring to? Sure there were a couple tiny ones, like the few errors in internal consistency and continuity, but nothing that could match the scale of the many enormous errors in Sith. In my opinion, Jedi does not get enough credit for being an amazing movie. It is just as fun as exciting as the other two, and has real stakes, real mythology, and powerful emotional scenes, as well as not one, but three awesome villains - the Emperor, Darth Vader, and Jabba the Hutt. Not to mention the second most super awesome space battle ever (after the attack on the Death Star in Star Wars). The final scene where Luke sees Darth Vader defeated and helpless, used and cast aside by the Emperor, and realizes that hate and anger don't make you stronger ties the Original Trilogy together in a tight, ironclad thematic bow.

 

Oh well I agree with that. Like everyone on here has probably read by now, Ford apparently said he wanted Han to be killed in the movie, but I just think it might of been too sad. Like if you had him die when he's being rescued from Jabba, the whole intro was like a big waste of time, and makes it all sad and cynical and sets the wrong tone for the rest of the movie. And if he doesn't die, he did have to like be around for the rest of the movie so they might as well have included some kind of little character arc, or have him do something thematically relevant. Anyway good point, not something I've really considered before now. (I was just happy seeing more Han Solo<3)

In my opinion, I think they gave the characters enough to say and do to make it at least interesting. I loved the scene on Dagobah, with Ben Kenobi's explanation of point-of-view offering thematic insight into what Star Wars is really about. And Luke learning Leia was his sister, so that there could be something to drive him toward using the dark side of the Force and set up Luke's final growth as a character. The bit on the Sanctuary Moon of Endor started out really tense, and got exciting with the chase, and then the funny scene where they are going to be cooked by the Ewoks but I agree they did dilute that mood when they are just sitting at the Ewok village. But I think that's okay because Return of the Jedi didn't have to be epic - that would of been what the Prequels did, letting the outside world seep into the work.

The problem is that the Original Trilogy didn't really make it seem like there was this entire religion to exterminate. At least to me, its pretty strongly implied that the Jedi knights were dying out before the Emperor became leader of the Galactic Empire, and got Darth Vader to destroy the last of them. And "For over a thousand generations, the Jedi knights were the guardians of peace and justice in the old republic. Before the dark times. Before the Empire." that stuff happened a long time ago. Otherwise explaining that to Luke would be like explaining to somebody in America "For over a hundred years the British monarchs ruled this country. Before the revolution. Before America." Like Luke should of known about all that if it was so recent. And if there were thousands of Jedi knights running around twenty years ago, it shouldn't be commonplace to not believe in the Force.

 

Huh I didn't ever considered that to be a realistic possibility as to the intents of the artists. Just the "ancient religion" comments, the various implications that the Galactic Empire has existed for a long time and the Jedi knights being the protectors of the old republic "Before the Empire.", but I guess it could be interpreted the other way. I prefer the already-dying-out-Jedi, old-Empire way, because it distances the Original Trilogy from the Prequels (and makes higher stakes for the Rebel Alliance), but in the context of the Original Trilogy it really doesn't matter. The backstory is backstory for a reason, and it probably shouldn't of been explored by prequels at all, good OR sucky. Sequels on the other hand...

 

I really wish the prequels weren't designed for 10 year olds, and that the direction was better. I really do. It's a shame Lucas lost his touch in the eighties.

It's also a massive shame that so many children of the 90s (and shockingly even the 80s!) have been brainwashed into putting the prequels on-par with the original trilogy. They're so easily dazzled by the crisp HD, 3D, 60fps gimmicks that it's impossible for them to see through to the artistry of the original trilogy.. The hard work put into it. The brilliance of Lucas' imagination for A New Hope and the genius of Ralph Mcquarrie's work on the world. Very upsetting that they'd rather have the puppet Yoda replaced with a CGI one, the lightsabers changed to match the prequels. Hayden Christensen force ghosts etc..

I hope JJ can bring back the magic that ignited our imaginations, and make us feel young and free again.. Free of Jar Jar's foul stench.

 

I think right now he would agree with you.