SPECULATION When did the Force go to sleep?

Why were the PT Force powers stronger than the powers in the OT? Because the Prequels tried to do everything bigger and better. I don't think it had anything to do with the story; it was just Hollywood trying to take everything that worked in Star Wars and make it even louder, brighter, and more.

The audience likes lightsabers? Fine, we'll give 'em hundreds of lightsabers!

The audience liked Luke and Leah swinging on a grappling hook? We'll have Anakin and Obi Wan swing over lava - fighting with lightsabers!

The audience liked X-Wing vs. Tie Fighter battles? We'll give 'em battles with 20 times as many ships!

The audience liked seeing hundreds of stormtroopers in formation on the Death Star? Let's give 'em thousands on Kamino!

The audience liked the Force? Ratchet it up to 11 then!

Sadly, there were too many fighting ships on the screen at once for anyone to follow the action, Anakin and Obi swinging over lava didn't make sense and just looked fake, too many lightsabers made them seem cheap and unremarkable, and - oh dear, this is turning into another Prequel bash, isn't it? Sorry, couldn't help myself.

But yeah, I don't think the Force powers were meant to be on steroids in the PT in regards to the story, I just think the guys at ILM couldn't help themselves. They were trying to make more of the most awesome movie franchise ever, and figured more Force powers = more awesomer.

 

My personal feeling is that it would be like explaining something that doesn't really need explaining. Disregarding the prequel issues mentioned above (which is hard to do), you have to remember that in the OT we were only really seeing a handful of Force-users anyway - a teenager in training, a dying Yoda, a cyborg Vader, old hermit era Obi-Wan, and Palpatine, who, to be fair, does eventually open a can of whoop-ass in the final act. I don't see how suggesting the OT events were somehow "suppressed" benefits the saga really. I just don't think it is a question that needs answering... unless JJ is under pressure to emulate the lightsaber gymnastics of the prequels and feels that will need justifying, which is a worrying thought.
Just my opinion, of course...

 

Great post: I agree no need for an awakening. But i'm sure we will have egg on our face when VII released. Personally I just don't see how it matches with the idea of the force. But I'm sure it will involve new Jedi being inspired to call on force against someone using or inspired by the dark side of force. Just an opinion too..

 

Without change something sleeps inside us, and seldom awakens. The sleeper must awaken.

 

So wouldn't that then be the Jedi in one awakening? I see it this way TIDMADT, if nobody prays does that mean that 'God is Dead?' Perhaps for Star Wars fans it does now. If nobody is a Jedi or Sith, then the force is asleep or dead.

I know I'm beginning to sound like a winging old bastard but i just don't get this title at this stage!!

 

The Jedi were stagnant... they lost their way when they broke with the Sith. It wasn't the breaking with the Sith that caused them to be stagnant... it was the fact that they were stagnant that caused the breaking with the Sith

 

Jedi Masters have visions of future events. So I think it's logical that Luke foresees a formidable evil coming that he can't defeat on his own. Therefore I can see Luke gone for 10+ years, but not in exile. At the end of the movie we come to find that he left to secretly train a handful of force users into Jedi Knights.

 

I stated the same thing, but half in jest.
When I wrote what if Luke in the 3rd act or end of TFA rolls in with a huge ship, the loading ramp lowers then 1000s of Luke Skywalker clones rush out!
That would be bananas!
Really, I see Luke maybe secretly training either his son, a relative or maybe Daisy(as this recluse on a desert planet).
As I also put out; if Luke IS the cloaked figure Daisy hugs in a "castle" like set, that might be in the dramatic climax where Skywalker must either kill or stop a character then has all the others(Han, Leia, the Alliance, the Republic, the Sith bad guys) really cheesed off.
Daisy or maybe one or 2 others(plus Yoda the Force Ghost ) will know & understand Luke's true intentions.

 

The twist could be that several of the evil characters turn out to be undercover Jedi Knights that Luke secretly trained.

 

Agreed... I have said that before...

 

Maybe we're on to something

 

I honestly don't buy Luke Skywalker as a "evil character" or a "agent of evil" .

He may ether be misled or double-crossed due to his unstable behavior/mindset or not fully understand who or what is going on until the film's final moments/ending. Then he'll either act or lash out.
But again, I doubt in a Disney film he'll go "Carrie" on people or be like the Hulk.
Skywalker may have a epic light saber battle & even use lightening but he won't turn Sith.

TheFettMan
PS: The "cloak" Skywalker dons may be Vader's outfit because he becomes disfigured, like Palpatine in the PT.
The "new Vader" will now be good not evil.
JJ & ILM may have a post credit scene ending with Vader's labored breathing sound FX .