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Where are the plot holes?

Discussion in 'Star Wars: The Last Jedi' started by DailyPlunge, Dec 19, 2017.

  1. DailyPlunge

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    You seem angry. This is a thread about plot holes.
    I haven't ignored legitimate comments.
    I don't have to pretend. There aren't any plot holes in The Last Jedi.
    No one is being told not to express their opinion.
    Wait, you're telling me not to express my opinion. That's not nice.
     
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    I think we have to accept this thread for what it is, not a legitimate attempt at communicating with others but as a self-pleasuring act of attempting to feel superior and look down on others. It is a simple attempt at baiting and trolling people and I wouldn't worry about trying to have a proper conversation with this person.
     
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    In ANH, after Alderaan is destroyed, Kenobi tells Luke to safely deliver the plans of the Death Star to Princess Leia/Bail Organa...who Kenobi thought was on Alderaan...which just blew up.

    A lot of stuff in Star Wars doesn't make any sense. The PT is full of actual plot holes. But we usually ignore them because we love the films. Problem is, Rey didn't turn out to be a Solo so some 40+ yr old men have sour grapes.
     
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    You speak my language far better than I speak yours.... this is a thread about plot holes. So far there haven't been any plot holes revealed. The main point of this entire thread is that there are plenty of valid reason to not like the film. People claiming that their are plot holes is not a valid reason. Actually, it hurts any legitimate argument to suggest they exist. I'm sorry if that's lost in translation.
     
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    Yes the first time ever in cinematic history where something happened at the last moment to save a major character. Um its not a plot hole. And from the moments before the rescue I actually thought she was going to hit the canon first not save him. Not sure why I knew she was close but I did. Not really a plot whole. Unless it was also a plot hole for Han to show up after not being seen on camera for a bit. Or Chewy to show up and Save the rebs on Endor.

    I don't remember Snoke sensing Luke in TFA, but perhaps it is Luke blocking himself from the Force is what Rey meant by cut off.

    Totally agree but I laughed.

    You mean like maybe she had some sort of power that lent her abilities beyond normal folk? What could that be. ;)

    That fishing pike was small compared to the ones used in Legends of Luke Skywalker.

    Really a dark sider blinded by rage. Mistakes made by characters are the plot.

    Clearly she had to roll over to catch it.

    I would say that they have lots of schematics but not what all the equipment does. BB8 calls up plans that they downloaded at some point. Finn thinks about procedures and gets some insight what would be needed to track a ship in hyper space and figures out the likely place on the ship that has the necessary abilities.

    Yoda never finished Luke's training either.

    Sure she could have run and saved herself. But it would have left the Supremacy to finish off the rest of the transports. So she acts to shield the transports and majorly disrupt the enemy.

    Most of what you shared weren't holes. And over the 40 years of SW plenty of exposition about things that were never explained in the films that is hardly new.

    I missed the full details on how much information Snoke had. I assume what he spoke about was what he knew and questions he asked were information he didn't have. Sure were calling it Forcetiming that doesn't mean Snoke is privy to the metadata.

    Actually I think Luke knew about the connection. At least before Rey leaves to go confront Kylo.
     
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    I don't get why the First Order's fleet never thought to scramble what must have been the hundreds of thousands of fighters they had in order to catch up to the cruiser and further wound it instead of going on this pointless chase of theirs.
     
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    If a short jump is not possible then they simply can make 2 moderate jumps of whatever the minimun distance is. Also it still doesn't make sense that all the ships in both fleets have the same speed or acceleration.
     
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    Saying the chasing was unrealistic in TLJ is silly. I guess the chase sequence in TESB through the asteroid field is also unrealistic too then.

    I guess Vader chasing Luke was unrealistic. I guess the speeder chase on Endor was unrealistic and so on and so on...

    Sounds like nitpicking not plotholes.
     
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    You know full well what you're doing.

    "There aren't any plot holes in The Last Jedi" is one hell of a statement to make, but like everything you say, it is exaggerated and worded in an exact manner to be inflammatory to others and bait people into coming into an argument with you - which you will then ignore and proclaim yourself superior. Well, it ain't gonna work buddy.
     
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    But we re-see the Rey/Luke meeting which is concurrent with the evacuation of D'Qar. The assumption is that the plots are happening at the same time.
     
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    They were being tracked, so it makes sense them being synced.
     
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    Exactly. See trench run.
     
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    I didn't understand what's the problem here.
     
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    I'm really disappointed in every one in this thread.

    Bickering like five year olds over an imaginary concept.

    Does it matter? Peace and love on the planet earth matters. Is TLJ really so divisive to forget that?

    Make love, not war. By that I don't mean have cybersex though.
     
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    Well Leia's hologram said that her "ship had come under attack"
     
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    Elaborate please you are not making any sense to me, what does the tracking have to with anything?
     
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    They don't on cruising,once you propell object in Space it moves indefinitely...and definitely doesn't stop after losing fuel..

    ..Still ...why chase?Why not jump over trough hyperspace and ambush,triangulate Raddus?

    Let me say why...a plot boat needed,Raddus.,intrigue boat needed Raddus,at all cost.They only omited(almost)a love boat Raddus.
    That's why I don't Like the film the most

    Space Cruiser Galactica remake..poor.
     
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    + to deliver the plans to Alderaan. Where does Ben think Luke and Han will take the plans now?
     
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    Well, by Star Wars' standards, not really. The Falcon couldn't use its hyperdrive to escape so, they had to find means with which to lose their Imperial pursuers and that meant having to lose the TIEs in an asteroid field. Dangerous? Absolutely but it was the only real option they had.

    Besides, I never called it unrealistic. I just said it's silly. The First Order could have easily dispatched TIEs to catch up with the cruiser or called in other capital ships to cut them off. After all, I can hardly believe that they've achieved dominance over the entire galaxy with a fleet of only about half a dozen capital ships. That's ridiculous.
     
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    They used engines -they went full speed. That would use fuel.

    Why change tactics when your believe the current tactic is 100% full proof?
     
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