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Who really owns Star Wars Episode IV A New Hope

Discussion in 'General Movie Discussion' started by WookieeMonster, Oct 9, 2014.

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    Ever since the day after "D-Day" 2012. I have heard many people debate over who really owns Star Wars Episode IV A New Hope. And what Disney can and can't do with Episode IV. Many people talk as if 20th Century Fox still owns the rights to Episode IV.

    In 1998 George Lucas was looking for a distributer for the Prequel Trilogy. He was not obligated to go through Fox. Fox on the other hand did not want Star Wars to be released through any other film company. So they were willing to do whatever it took to strike a deal with Lucasfilm. George Lucas using that great business mind of his, as he did in the beginning to secure the rights to any Star Wars Sequels. Met with Fox. The deal that was made was, Fox would get to release Episodes 1-3 and Lucasfilm obtained the rights to Episode IV.

    The last VHS box set of the Original Trilogy released in 2000 the copyrights for Star Wars Episode IV A New Hope for the first time ever red... Lucasfilm. Prior to this release every release of Episode IV red 20th Century Fox. Every following release since then the copyright has been Lucasfilm. Check for yourselves friends. There is a book titled "The Secret History of Star Wars" that explains this better.

    So 12 years before "D-Day" Lucasfilm owned the copyrights to ALL 6 Star Wars films. What this means is that since "D-Day" 2012 Disney has owned ALL 6 Star Wars films. Fox does not own any part of Episode IV. The only thing Fox has to do with the 6 Star Wars films is the distribution. And that's only until 2020, unless Disney buys out that deal, which they might have done. I suggest everyone read into this for themselves.

    So Disney owns ALL 6 Star Wars films.
     
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    Great find! That does clear up a few things.

    However, I read that George destroyed the original prints of SW for those that think they will be re-released on BluRay.
     
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    That's not hard to believe., and I have heard rumors of that to.

    Yeah I don't think Disney will release the unaltered versions. I just don't think that Bob Iger & co. would do that against George's wishes.
    And George may have even took steps to prevent that, like destroying the original prints.
     
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    He could even have gone so far as to write a clause in the contract that forbade his "original" films from ever being released.

    There was a great article that came out this past summer that chronicled how much George loathed those original cuts -- he always saw them as crude and unfinished. I don't think he ever wants them to be seen again.
     
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    I read that article also. I can see both His and the fans points of view on this.

    A lot of people hope that Disney will releases them on Blu-ray, but I honestly don't believe they will.
     
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    They are his babies. He can do whatever he wants with them.
     
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    Which is why I am happy with the releases we have.

    But I always got into buying each new release so that I could watch the new additions he put in each film. The changes in the films never bothered me.
     
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    I agree.
     
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    I agree, I also believe that Disney agrees with what you said. I think Disney will stand behind George on the 2011 Blu-ray version being the final version of Star Wars. I have great faith that Disney will do good by Star Wars with Episode 7. But I for one will miss George tinkering around with his films! I just hope they end the Skywalker saga as a "Trilogy of Trilogies"......... But I won't complain if they don't.
     
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    I wouldn't mind a PT special edition though lol
     
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    Like adding in the scene in Ep. 3 where Yoda lands on Dagobah.
    I wouldn't mind a PT SE either.
     
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    I think that was a deleted scene actually.
    Extended Versions like Lord of the Rings did would be awesome.
     
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    @Echo-07 I've been waiting for starwars7news to post some kind of article on the subject of Lucasfilm obtaining the rights to Ep. 4 ANH....... hint hint lol
     
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    If you put the " @ " symbol before a username, you can tag them so they know to look at a post.
     
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    Not a problem. Makes things a little easier if you're trying to get someone's attention!
     
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    My understanding was that while Disney has the copyright for all 6, the distribution rights that Fox has for episode IV do not expire like they do for the others. Haven't read that book yet but I will as soon as a can. Everything I have read on this topic though always references it.
     
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    To my understanding Lucasfilm obtained the copyright to Ep. 4 sometime between 1998-2000. When you own the copyright to something you own all rights to it. Fox signed a contract with Lucasfilm to have the right to distribute it and the other 5 films at the time. But even if your understanding is correct and if that's the case. Then there is still no problem with Disney doing whatever they want with future Star Wars releases. 6 months or 6 years from now. Disney could release the unaltered versions on Blu-ray, it would only mean that Fox would get something like 2-6 % off the sale of 1 of 3 films, in a box set 2-6% of the 33.3% that that one film would contribute to the sale. 2-6% of the 11% of a 9 film box set. Addressing the concerns of some fans who are worried that when Disney completes their trilogy they would have to strike a deal with Fox to release all 9 films together. Fox has absolutely no say in what will, or will not be done to Ep. 4 or the Star Wars franchise. They only have the right to distribute the 1st 6 Star Wars films until 2020.
     
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    Regarding if it is possible to release unaltered versions of the film or not due to "destroyed original prints", it would be possible to remaster it from the Laserdisc release. Not ideal, and it would probably look kind of like garbage, but it would be possible. You could use the current Blu-Ray prints for any scenes that have not been altered, and insert Laserdisc material only where it were necessary. Again, I'm not trying to say this is a good idea, just trying to say that if someone wanted original versions, they could definitely make them.
     
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    The idea that there are NO surviving original prints of ANH is obviously not correct. Lucas may or may not have destroyed LFL's originals, but there were prints of that movie sent all over the world before Lucas started messing around with it. The likelihood that no original prints exist is very low indeed. Somewhere out there in the world, there are at least a few pristine copies, or copies that are in good enough shape that they could be used as the basis for a restoration of the original edit.

    This happens a lot with so-called "lost" movies from years past. If Disney really wanted to restore an original version of ANH, I'm sure they could.
     
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