Would canonizing an alternate universe change your views of TLJ?

I have no attachment to the old canon. However, I do understand that there were levels of canon that could be confusing. That said, they can cherry pick what works and what doesn't. They've already done that to an extent, especially with Thrawn.

 

Disney has always said, that they want one story/one canon. Thats why the EU had to go. (And i am quite glad that some of the storys are no longer canon). So i dont think that they will ever make the EU canon again.

 

You can enjoy the EU (legends) now. They dont need to be canonized.
I will love TLJ anyways, btw.

 

The EU is canonized... as the EU.

It's not the canon they're currently developing, and it probably never will be because it's so full already, but I guess I don't understand what you want of them.

The "EU" is its designation, and there's nothing to stop anyone from enjoying it as such. Heck, if you want to believe parts of Rebels or Rogue One took place in the EU too, nothing is stopping you!

 

I wish there weren't a big fat yellow banner that says LEGEND on every EU book.

And that there is no more story post 45 ABY. (Crucible).

Yes, there aren't anything stopping us to "cherry pick" Disney Star Wars into the EU.
The beauty of Lost Stars is there really isn't any conflicting materials that need to be retconned so that it fit the EU. Except maybe asking: Where the heck is Thane, Kendy, and Nash in the OT?

Edit:
<Palpatine's voice> Every single surviving character of Lost Stars, except Nash Windrider, is now an enemy of the Star Wars canon </Palpatine's voice>

 

No alternative universes thankyou. This isn't Star Trek. Yet.

 

Star Wars Rebels begs to differ.

 

Why bother? It doesn't change the fact that Star Wars is now a joyless Universe full of awkward humor and characters killing themselves to save each other. Failure is chic. A little less light hearted then what Star Wars was based around I think.

 

Eh, it's just to let readers know what canon they're reading. I'd suggest not judging a book by its cover, literally.

That's not the case, though. It actually goes long past then.

 

"characters killing themselves to save each other" cue how Darth Vader and how Obi-Wan died...

 

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Phew, all these dust particles can get annoying, can't they?

I have no comment regarding the humour, humour is subjective, but I consider The Last Jedi to be the funniest SW film yet, but I like goofy things in general, so it may be that.

 

At no point in TLJ did I or the audience I was sat with laugh once for the intended reasons.

There was a cringey awkward silence for most of the film, almost as if people were too embarrassed and afraid to laugh at its terrible almost infantile humour.

The actual written and scripted humour in TLJ was of a very American style, which is always very obvious, very predictable, very visual and slapstick. US humour is identical to German humour, they too like quick obvious humour that requires no inner thought processes to understand. (Unsurprising really, as most white Americans are actually descended from German immigrants, not from Ireland or Britain as popularly believed. German is the largest white ethnic group in the US. I just checked that.)

Also, a joke is not a joke if you have to explain the joke while you're telling the joke.

That is classified as "unfunny" where I'm from, the land of Monty Python, Ricky Gervais, David Mitchell, Stephen Fry, Charlie Brooker, Diane Morgan and many, many others.

But I did laugh at the dreadful Leia Poppins scene and where Luke flies around on his fishing spear on the island....

 

I laughed when Kylo ordered "FIRE every thing!"
and Luke (at that point I thought he was actually there) didn't have a scratch on him when the smoke cleared.

That was the only time.

 

I don't think it would work. Unless they'd be willing to develop movies for the EU, which I can't see them ever doing, then nothing would really change. The EU is still there for those who prefer it, but those who do prefer the EU get gipped out of seeing the big three on the big screen. To me, that's the loss, never seeing Mark, Harrison and Carrie's portrayal in a positive way on the big screen. Besides, the EU has very few good stories to cherry pick from. Take out the Thrawn trilogy (which has issues on its own) and the Jedi Academy trilogy (which has even more issues), and the rest is quite forgettable (I think every fan of the EU has some of the corny stories that tugs at their heart strings, but are secretly quite happy it doesn't make it to the big screen).

When Disney first bought SW, my hope was that they'd cherry pick some of the better moments of the EU for the first movie or trilogy to jumpstart the new run. Having Thrawn as the main villain, having a fallen apprentice of Luke's (a better version of Brakiss, honeslty, Kylo would fit quite well), Mara Jade (modified, younger, and would have probably been a lead most SW fans would have gotten behind), and include the Jedi Academy, Kessel, maybe even Kyp (modified, possibly even into a version of Rey). I always expected the heroes to die (Han, Leia and Luke) but my hope was a modified story to fit the ages of the various characters. I hoped and envisioned (head canon's wet dreams lol) a positive beginning, much like the start of LotR, that slowly got darker as Thrawn took hold. Instead of Chewie dying, Han dies (we all knew Harrison wanted out), then move on from there.

SW coming back this late after VI was going to be a tight wire act between fan service and upending the stories we've had. It was made more difficult by including the big 3. I think it could have done better had it gone 75 years or so after RotJ, and not have the big 3, but then again, we'd have gotten all sorts of complaining about that too.

So for me it would do nothing.

 

What are you talking about Sparafucile?
Dark Nest Trilogy is way superior than anything the so called canon has at the moment.
Good trilogies

Dark Nest trilogy by Troy Denning
Star by Star
I Jedi
The Wraith Squadron books by Allston
The loose Callista trilogy.

I'm so disappointed with people who says: ZOMFG EU has problems!!!!! So glad it's not canon! but have no examples beyond it references itself too much, as if It's a bad thing.

 

Star Wars, in a nutshell 2018

 

Cherry picking EU concepts/characters and putting them inside the Disney Star Wars canon was the worst thing they could have done.

Example:
Thrawn is put in the Disney canon. His back story is changed irreversibly, so is his character arc. There are people who cry: Yay! THRAWN is back!

Do these even know why they are so excited Thrawn is back? Do they know the reason behind Thrawn's attraction to the fans when the Thrawn trilogy came out? It sure wasn't his skin color or the color of his eyes, I assure you.

I have a suspicion the same people who cry: Yay! Thrawn is back! is the same one who crys: So f glad the EU wasn't canon anymore!

 

Maybe some people (myself included) are excited of the possibility of a character they liked (like Thrawn) being in a less messy canon?

You're welcome to your opinions, but you don't get to speak for everyone...

Same as above, that's a fascinating anecdote.

In my experience, the two packed showings I went to tended to react more... appropriately. Sorry yours was such a bummer.