SPECULATION OFFICIAL Rey Discussion Thread

A reasonable person would assume that if Luke had young kids he had to abandon or because he died, he'd give them up to Leia and/or Han to take care of.

Mark Hamill: When you find out that the only woman that you really fell head over heels with is your sister... you know, it's telling you something. So I had a feeling I'd probably wind up like Sir Alec [Guinness] in the first one, living in some igloo out in the desert... ...in therapy, but with just no human contact, just droids... ...no, seriously... I mean we all laugh about it but can you--when you follow it through that must have been quite the traumatic experience for my character. You know what I'm saying? 'Cause [Han and I] were both after her in... (July 2015)

 

That would be a terrible idea... Why would you ruin a pivotal secret about the movie in a trailer??

 

I don't think Rey is Luke's daughter. Here's my reasoning:

1. Who was Mom?

Having Luke have children instantly throws up the question, who with? Many people seem fine with the idea that Luke's partner perished, but I'm not. The introduction of Rey as a protagonist is a welcome change to SW movies and I don't think JJ et al would undermine the presentation of a lead female character by writing off her mother as someone we'll never meet. That's before we consider all the exposition required to explain that Luke met someone, fell in love, had children, lost his partner and (somehow) became separated from his daughter. (One of the great failings of the PT, imho, is that I simply couldn't see Padme as the tragic figure she should have been -- SW really doesn't "do women" well, so far....) It's simply much easier if Rey is Han and Leia's daughter because we saw that romance build during the OT and making Rey the product of that building in the ST just makes sense to me.

2. Why should Rey care about Han's death?

Han's rumoured death in TFA has many of us expecting to shed a tear in theatres come Dec, but if that death means nothing to the characters in the movie it might not be the emotional high-point we're all expecting. Sure, I'm certain Leia will be devastated and Chewie will have plenty to groan about, and no doubt Luke will feel a disturbance in the Force at his friend's passing, but--as is so often pointed out on these boards--the ST isn't their story. Someone has to feel the loss and carry it with them into Eps VIII and IX and, although I like the idea of Kylo being a Solo (maybe), I can't see Kylo being the one to carry that emotion with him. Makes more sense for it to be Rey (of the new big three) so Luke can teach her to control her anger and not let mourning get the better of her.

3. It gives Leia a focus for the ST

Well, that's about it. Making Rey Han and Leia's daughter gives Leia something to be involved with for the new movies. Luke is already the last Jedi and even if Leia has had training, she'll always be in his shadow (I'm guessing). So make her the mother of the next New Hope. It just makes sense to me....

 

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^Ridley added a disclaimer with her latest instagram video. Because the phrase "she's got that force" is used in it.

https://thecantina.starwars7news.com/index.php?threads/reys-role-daisy-ridley.61/page-88#post-121036 (0:38)

I've seen her do that before when she tweeted about Fisher.

https://thecantina.starwars7news.com/index.php?threads/reys-role-daisy-ridley.61/page-7#post-2694

If these things were false, there wouldn't be the need for concern and disclaimers.

Here's what she told Yahoo! last month in the interview about The Force Awakens secrecy:

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Let's not forget about the other factor: Making Harrison Ford a happy man. What makes Harrison Ford a happy man? Flying helicopters and planes. Well, besides that, within his profession that enables him to ...

https://thecantina.starwars7news.com/index.php?threads/reys-role-daisy-ridley.61/page-15#post-29424

https://thecantina.starwars7news.co...s-screen-time-theory.2500/page-35#post-110387

I think he's talking about his character in regard to very intriguing developments. "To bless me" "I was very gratified."

 

Lol....

 

While I think you make some good arguments, IMO your first reason isn't a strong argument against Rey being Luke's daughter. If JJ has taken the easy and simple ways to tell the story, he would have made Rey grew up with Han and Leia, and perhaps have Rey (rather than Poe) be the X-Wing pilot sent on a mission to Jakku by Leia. Instead, JJ has Rey seemingly grew up and surviving on her own on Jakku. In other words, since JJ has already made Rey's story somewhat complicated, all bets are off as to whether he has also created a complicated story involving Rey's mother, how she and Luke got together, and what had happened to her.

 

I accept that, fair enough. I'm just not comfortable with Luke's partner having come and gone off-screen. If, however, and as I've speculated elsewhere, Luke's partner turned to the Dark Side leading to both Rey and Luke going into exile, and if she resurfaced during Ep VIII, that would be interesting. In fact, as long as Rey's mother/Luke's partner isn't just written out as back-story, most of my first argument fades away....

 

Re: new rumors that Rey is on Jakku waiting for somebodies return...
The line Finn says always stuck out; "if we go back to Jakku, we die!" Who is he talking to and why do they want to go back badly enough to risk endangering themselves?

I like the sound of this rumor. It adds extra emotional weight to Rey's character. The "flashback" will probably be connected to all of this. Perhaps she finds out her parents were killed by the Knights or somesuch.

 

Finn: "if we go back to Jakku, we die!"
Finn: "I never should have rescued you!"

Spoiler

I think Finn tells Poe not to go back to Jakku inside the TIE fighter. Maybe Poe wants to find BB-8 & the lightsaber before the First Order does. But he does anyway and they crash. I seem to remember they brought this up a long time ago on the MSW podcast, way before the toy came out.

I think the idea is these two bicker like C-3PO and R2-D2. The two droids had very different ideas of where to go in the beginning.

 

A Solo?

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Well he was right.

 

Anyway Ridley is hilariously paranoid about being associated with The Force or with the idea of Carrie Fisher's family. Gee I sarcastically wonder what the reason could b....

Luke Skywalker V.O.
The Force is strong in my family.
My father has is it.
I have it.
My sister has it.
You have that power, too.

 

Maybe you're right, but it still looks like a mummy's wrap to me, that is all that I am saying. I am only talking about the design of the Rey's custom, nothing about her character's actions.

 

Are we back with this old chestnut again?

We wont find out who she is in this episode

 

I don't understand?

 

Understood.

 

1) Never was a big deal after watching ESB and finding out Vader was Luke's Dad. I mean we wanted to know but not knowing and not finding out in the OT didn't hurt the movies in any way.

2) He'd be her uncle, also after she was taken by the first order he came to rescue her. It'd bother me. Why does Finn get upset? There is a connection. Seeing someone die to save you... Well "I care"

3) If the other rumors are true, the love of her life is now dead and at the hands of their son. I think that i'd be focused on saving my son like Luke saved his Father and bringing an end to organization that corrupted my son and caused so much strife.

 

Making Star Wars has a new post about a rumor of Rey's past in TFA.
Rumor and my speculation under Spoiler:

Spoiler

They say Rey is a pseudonym (old rumor). Rey was dropped off on Jakku by her parents. She doesn't leave because she is afraid they won't find her when they return. They also say her life in the AT-AT makes Luke's life seem luxurious.
The author speculates that she isn't a Solo or Skywalker (I hate the idea that she isn't). But if the idea that she has been given a kind of Force amnesia is true, could the memory of her parents leaving her on Jakku and her fear of leaving in case they return be "implants" to keep her from leaving Jakku and getting the attention of the First Order and the Knights of Ren? The revelation that this was forced (no pun intended) on her could be why she is so upset after Maz's flashback vision. This would also mean those who don't know this rumor would be misled about who she is and it is a real twist when Maz reveals the truth.

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Which takes us back to the bickering peasants from Hidden Fortress.