SPECULATION Ahsoka Vs. Vader Confrontation

I mean this with no disrespect ... but why would Vader presume her to be dead? She left the Jedi Order well before Order 66 went down. Perhaps he's looking for her. We know he has a love/hate thing going on with Sidious. I think it would be interesting if he obsessed over finding her ... before having a new target to search for, once he discovers his son was actually born.

 

Sorry...I am only in season 3 so I have no idea what happens in the rest of the series. That would be the source of the confusion...

 

Yikes ... sorry Poe. I'll try to be more careful next time.

 

No worries, my man. I'm on this website...clearly I came for all kinds of spoilers. Lol

 

I'm only at season 4 myself.

 

I've gotten to the good episodes. I almost gave up in season 1 but kept going. Glad I did.

 

Indeed but thats always with season one of something I always expect the good parts to come early, ps: sorry about the twitter follower request error.

 

lol no worries.

 

A fight between Ahsoka and Vader is inevitable, in my opinion. I don't think it will go down on Rebels. My guess is when they do reveal Ahsoka as Fulcrum she will only be a reoccurring character, not a regular. I would not be surprised if she got her own series, television or comic/novel, and that is what Rebels is setting up.

She's too good a character to just be part of an ensemble. If she had her own series it could cover her adventures as Fulcrum and how she helps out different clusters of rebels around the Galaxy. That's a show I would love to watch.

Much like I believe the fates of Ezra and Kanaan are to die in a conflict with Darth Vader, I believe Ahsoka shares that. This fight will either be used to show there is still some good in Vader, or that he is completely lost. Ahsoka was basically his little sister and best friend, so killing her will be some heavy blast. I don't think Rebels would be a good platform. Give the lady her own show!

 

What if Vader turns her to the darkside and we will see Kanan vs Ahsoka ? that WOULD BE EPIC FINAL SCENE

 

The introduction of Tarkin shows that the high command is becoming increasingly annoyed with the local authoroties' inability to end the resistance.

It seems that eventually the Inquisitor will come under that same "you've failed me for the last time" punishment...which will likely turn into Vader dealing with it himself.

 

After seeing Tarkin in the clone war series he was the go to guy to stamp out the rebels attacks, Im glad he is back because his intelligence & resolve was unmatched.

 

I would personally love a Vader vs Inquisitor fight. That'd be badass

 

The Ahsoka vs Vader confrontation people talk more about the battle, of course Vader would win in a fight to the death, even thought shes likely the better swordsman he is the most powerful force wielder in existence and since hes a sith, he will use it in combat.

The real question is the dialogue, will he try to turn her, will he show her mercy. What I want to see is signs that Vader is still anakin deep in side, and the ahsoka arc is a great opportunity. I'm much more interested in the story though

 

I'll throw my hat in the ring on this topic...

I'm thinking they are going to lead up to this with bits of Ahsohka and Vader sprinkled throughout the first half of the season. The show runners have said Vader is going to be used sparingly and Ashley Eckstein has hinted Ahsohka is not in every episode. Going by the Fulcrum-established role she has, I'm guessing her time off-screen is spent aiding other Rebel factions around the galaxy. I guess what I'm trying to say is the meat and potatoes of Rebels will still be the Ghost Crew.

The second half is probably where we will see The Emperor driving Vader to pursue Ahsohka, either join them or die. Ahsohka senses there is still some of Anakin in Vader and is convinced she can turn him back. Maybe at some point she even goes looking for Vader? Eventually, it comes to a head, they have a duel. Towards the end, Vader overpowers her but decides to let her live. The Emperor shows up and has been watching in the wings the entire time. He goes crazy Force-lightning on Ahsohka when she defies him and Vader watches his master kill his former apprentice. If you have been following the comics and novels in the new canon, the Emperor and Darth Vader are not exactly the best of friends. The Emperor has thrown him to the wolves and made it very clear he has little faith in Vader. Vader has spent most of the new canon searching for new ways to overthrow the Emperor.

Something like this needs to happen, unless they are planning an Obi-Wan film. As of now, if we go by the canon, there is almost nothing to indicate anyone except Luke in ROTJ ever had a glimmer of hope there was good left in Anakin. Maybe at the end of the season finale (where I'm guessing this will all go down), we see Obi-Wan receive a pre-recorded message from Ahsohka saying she is going to confront Vader and try to save Anakin. Either way, we need to see Obi-Wan have some sort of epiphany and think there is something left in Anakin to save, otherwise the whole "Obi-Wan once thought as you did...", which is one of the most haunting lines in ROTJ from Vader recalling his past.

If they kill of Ahsohka by the end of this season, we damn well better be getting a comic, novel, or animated series dedicated solely to what she has been up to since she left the Jedi Order, the fall of the Republic, and the rise of the Empire. She is one of the best characters in the SW universe and she could carry a series of her own.

 

I totally disagree. Vader wasn't referring to a pre-ANH encounter the two of them had, where Obi-Wan tried to turn Anakin back. I'm sorry, but that's just absurd. It's canon that Obi-Wan and Vader never crossed paths between RotS and ANH. Are you saying Obi-Wan reached Anakin telepathically?

Though it's not exactly spelled out what Vader meant, I always thought he was referring to Obi-Wan's spirit and courage in confronting evil. That's what Luke was trying to get Anakin to do in RotJ: confront the darkness within himself, and the evil manipulating him.

I like your other point though. By the time of ANH, Obi-Wan knows that Vader is Anakin. It hasn't been revealed exactly how he discovered this. Maybe that's where Ahsoka comes into play. It'd be epic to see those two reunite.

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Also, judging by the way Yoda and Obi-Wan train Luke, they don't believe Vader can be turned back at all.

 

Obi at some point will have to go to korriban for his trial to learn to become immortal, they never will meet in person but the will telepathically through the force. Granted this is mere deduction, But it stands to reason that Obi will have to go through the same trials as Yoda.

 

Really? Obi-Wan goes to Moraband? Come on.... Really? (and that would be inductive reasoning, not deductive).

Judging by the dialogue at the end of RotS, it's more likely to induce that Yoda, by passing the priestess' tests, was allowed to instruct whomever he deemed worthy on how to retain consciousness after death.

Yoda:
Until the time is right, disappear we will. [Senator Organa and Obi-Wan bow and start to leave] Master Kenobi, wait a moment. In your solitude on Tatooine, training, I have for you.

Obi-Wan:
Training?

Yoda:
An old friend has learned the path to immortality. One who has returned from the netherworld of the Force... Your old master.

Obi-Wan:
[surprised] Qui-Gon?!

Yoda:
How to commune with him, I will teach you.

So, Obi-Wan was communicating telepathically with Yoda and Qui-Gon on Tatooine -- that's certain. Other than ascension, I'd wager they also talked about trusting the Cosmic Force, and waiting for Luke to be cast into the fray before training him. But to claim that Obi-Wan contacted Vader telepathically during this time and tried to turn him back, again I'll say it, is just absurd.

I'll say this though, if there's a 0% chance of Obi-Wan contacting Vader, there's probably a 1% chance that Obi-Wan goes to Moraband.

 

Kenobi knows Anakin is Darth Vader in Episode III, when he and Yoda review the security footage of the Jedi Temple, and Palaptine refers to him as Lord Vader.

 

I think Obi-Wan needs to believe there is good in him and something needs to happen to discourage that. There is still a journey for Obi-Wan. I would hate to think he just sat in that hut, meditating for decades while the galaxy around him unraveled