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SPECULATION Another Outline For The Force Awakens Surfaces.

Discussion in 'Star Wars: The Force Awakens' started by Pomojema, Nov 17, 2014.

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    I actually thoroughly enjoy the direction this one went in, with the exception of the flashback mention.

    Maybe it's just my opinion, but I think any flashback sequence showin Luke / Leia / ANYONE WE HAVE SEEN BEFORE portrayed by another actor would be a terrible idea.
     
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    It says "post Arndt" 4th draft rewrite, meaning a fourth rewrite overall but after Arndt.
     
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    Upon closer inspection (I'd only glanced upon the info before I posted it), I'm under the impression that this was definitely an outdated take on the script - it was directly stated that J. J.'s take on the film gave greater precedence to the big three, and given that the original post barely talks about Han and Leia before bumping them off, I think it's safe to say that this draft was overwritten. Still, it might be a decent frame of reference (provided the info's real), as it's not likely that they threw everything Ardnt wrote out the window - Daisy Ridley's role sounds like it was pretty much unchanged.
     
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    To the audience,Leias death wouldbe significant to her children. But ultimately it is the least emotionally significant of the big Three which is why i think han dies as Luke has far more utility in the universe.
     
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    Jona, Kane, Kira, Orgo, Ova, Ren, Vena & Vos.... Those names alone are enough to make me cry.... (epic fail)
     
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    Sure, SW has its share of dumb names - but are JJ and his team on a four letter maximum for names here? I mean, was the printer running low on ink or something? Come on, where's the Ki-Adi Mundi's and Ben Quadinaros's? Add another finger to the typing, guys--try a surname, lol!
     
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    Ben has three letters;)

    Not to mention Luke, Leia, Han, Owen, Beru, Dak, Yoda, Mon, Bail, Boba etc
     
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    Yeah, yeah, of course. But they also had surnames, etc. I just found that particular selection of names to be a bit uninspired and unsaleable. Made me laugh out loud ;)
     
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    And what evidence do you have, even if these names turn out to be true, that these characters don't have surnames?

    My point is that:

    A. This information is likely false

    and

    B. Even if true it is clearly incomplete

    But you still don't have to like them if you don't want to :D
     
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    My point, although buried behind amusement and disdain, is that those names are so terrible they prove the piece is either false or so early as to be obsolete due to rewrites. One of the functions of a treatment is to give a flavor of a title, and for marketing execs that means cool factor in spades. This treatment seems so bland and lacking in allure that it is either fan-written or so early that it was written for a very select readership within the inner sanctum of the production.

    That would be my guess, anyway.

    EDIT: in short, they at best sound like placeholders.
     
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    At best this is a severely outdated script, the giveaway being Han's death early in the film.

    Interstellar's "script" was supposedly leaked ages ago, but the leak bears only passing resemblance to the film. Probably because people see a script and don't realize "work in progress"
     
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    Come on guys. This is clearly made up. There are loads of hints in this that point to it being a fan-made bit of fluff by someone hoping to get it picked up by the various "news" sites.

    #1 Names - a previous poster hit that proverbial nail on the head - where are the surnames?

    #2 Artoo and 3PO - nonexistent in this treatment. Sorry that's a dead giveaway. (Hello "concept art" as well)

    #3 Weaponized Coruscant. Great - we've built a superweapon on a planet. Come attack us! We'll kill you. Oh, wait - you're going to another system? Shucks - we can't come after you. Dagnabbit!!! Who designed this thing!??!

    #4 Max Von Sydow is filming all his scenes for a movie that won't film until 2018 NOW. Sure. Yeah, I get that. Makes total sense.

    #5 Han and Leia die early on. Sure, Harrison Ford and Carrie Fisher have been in London filming for months because they die in an early scene in the film. Uh huh.

    Come on!!!!!
     
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    I just enjoy the monosyllabic rigor... It's like they're coming up with names that make it easy for dogs to remember. No more than two syllables or us dog brained humans will surely be thrown for a loop!
     
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    Help me, I don't see where it says Han and Leia die early.
     
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    Go back and read the "script" outline. It's in there.

    Forgot one - #6 Reference to Voldemort....Jesus.
     
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    Sorry, still don't see it.

    I see that Han and leia die, and stuff happens after that, but nothing that suggests this happens early on. If I told you that Luke and Leia are born, Anakin is rescued by the Emperor and given the Vader armor, Padme dies, the twins are split up, and Yoda and Obi-Wan exile themselves after Anakin is burned alive in ROTS, would that suggest that Anakin's injury happens early on?

    Just for clarity, I don't think this outline is at all true, but IMHO I just don't think your assessment of why it is untrue is all that accurate. In addition, the lack of information ie lack of surnames or R2 and 3PO is irrelevant. Whether factual or not, the so called outline is clearly incomplete.
     
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    A: Carrie Fisher is widely known in Hollywood as a "script doctor" so even if her scenes are brief or she's aced in the first 1/3 of TFA she still might be in the UK to help with on set changes/dialogue/etc.
    B: I've heard & read the "planet as a weapon" bit often so I don't think something repeatedly printed or "leaked" would be completely false. 2 of the 6 Star Wars films thus far have included WMDs so why wouldn't TFA?
    Now, the ability to destroy entire star systems or planets sounds iffy but that's a big jump from the Death Stars(which all seem played out by 2015).
    C: TFA is a little over a YEAR away. Much can change or take place in that 12mo period. ;)
     
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    It says their deaths are Kira's call to action meaning that it has to occur early in the film
     
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    Usually, one fingerprint of fan-fic is a very heavy dependence upon pre-established ideas, characters and locations, and new elements are quite sketchily mixed in. In these quasi-synopses, most locations are well-trod and the immediate 'go to' for fan-fic writers because they are already known and endeared to fans and will garner more casual interest than brand new environments.
     
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