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SPECULATION Another Outline For The Force Awakens Surfaces.

Discussion in 'Star Wars: The Force Awakens' started by Pomojema, Nov 17, 2014.

  1. Darth Arthritus

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    To me, Kira's call to action might mean she is finally motivated by the end of the film to be offically trained as a Jedi and fight the evil forces whoever that may be, and that carries over into eight and nine. It doesn't suggest to me that she is not involved at all until that. What does "call to action" even really mean in the first place. Her character arc of resisting "involvement" could certainly last the majority of the film. Let's look at it another way, if remnants of the empire still exist, and she has specifically not sought training up to this point, then her inaction to be trained is the device by which she is staying uninvolved and the device by which her call to action occurs. She can easily be dragged into the action against her will. And considering that other characters are supposed to have the spotlight in this film, it makes sense.
     
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    Most of this will be disproven come teaser anyway with Boyega in storm trooper uniform and if they have any shots of Driver as villain. I do think parts of this may be from earlier drafts though

    Then what is the driving plot pre-Kira call to action. It describes a couple scenes occurring after Han and Leia die (Chewie and Isaac).
     
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    Both her and Luke will have to be dragged into action the way I see it. TFA is primarily about Han, Driver, and Boyega/Isaac/Gwen.
     
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    It says that "Ren" is a fellow pilot and friend of Jona, it doesn't say that he doesn't start the movie as an imperial.

    I could certainly speculate what that plot point is ie Boyega being chased by imperials and they have to flee the planet to saftey, but based on this "outline" we don't know. But that's my point, whether true or not, its a jumbled mess that's not in any good order and clearly missing a lot of information.

    So to say things are missing and the plot is in the wrong order is the reason that it is untrue is faulty reasonining, because it is clearly evident that things are in the wrong order and stuff is missing because its a sloppy summary by a fan. That in itself does not prove anything.

    Just to repeat for the record, I still don't think its true, I just would like to see better reasoning why.

    To me, I'm scepticle of any Plaugious involvement, let alone Max filming scenes for movies that aren't written yet.
     
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    http://badassdigest.com/2014/11/17/...e-awakens-trailer-contain/#comment-1698578668

    This person here just straight up says they make **** up in hopes of getting people to bite. There's a lot of things I never share because they come across this way. Only if there's corroboration elsewhere do I think about it.

     
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    yup. i'm glad that not many knowledgeable fans do this.. as with decent imagination it would be easy to deceive.

    let's not give him any more attention ;)
     
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    Everything is fake. The truth will come out soon! (I HOPE!!!)
     
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    1) When this thread was first started, I did a quick search for the same text. The comments on the main site here was the only place those words appeared; that was the only result Google threw out. Yet the guy who posted it claims he "saw it on another post".Sadly, it is now all over the internet. Suppose it shows people are reading this site. :)

    2) The same poster has a history of posting BS in the article comments, for example:
    3) It's clearly a load of rubbish, full of interjection and editorialising, for example: "Despite the passage of time, and much like real world politics..." and "Not surprising, Luke is a recluse... Having done his duty..."
    I'm sorry my friends, but that is a sure fire-way to spot a faker. If someone really had verified a plot outline to pass on, they would not feel the need to justify it with conjecture and subjective statements like that.
    I mean, take this statement: "Jona is overcome with grief and disappears for the rest of the film..." So someone has read the whole script/treatment from start to finish then? Because no script or treatment I have ever read would actually contain such a statement - "X now disappears for the rest of the film" - that sort of thing only becomes evident when you read the whole thing thoroughly and realise that character doesn't show up again. Yet he chooses to throw out a few shoddy bullet points instead of spilling every detail they would have to have read?

    It's BS.
     
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    The "call to action" incident will be the use of the "Acient Fear" WMD.
    If Darth Pleaiges is indeed the ST main villian he or the group of bad guys(possible faction of Imperial Empire) might use the "planet weapon" then the entire film jumps ahead 10/15 years.
    Luke & his new Jedi crew might not stop it in time or screw up which leads to a "all is lost" scene. Luke might go bonkers while in seclusion then be "found" by the young cast.
    I don't know why, but Im thinking Luke may be in exile on Yavin 4.
    It makes sense. He had his first major success/victory there & it's a way to tie the OT to the ST. :)
    I don't think the Skeling-Michael location is Yavin 4 but it might be where Luke confronts the "grave robber"/cyborg.
     
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    I stand corrected. Thanks.
     
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    We're in the Matrix ?! :eek:
     
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    This is the only time where a flashback scene makes sense... because it's not a flashback. We start in the movie at an event, 10-15 years AFTER ROTJ, something horrible happens, could be the entire first 30-60 minutes of the movie... then "15 Years Later"... remember this is always "A long time ago in a galaxy far, far away..."
     
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    Right.
    A time gap may be needed to explain how the children go from little kids to young adults in their early 20s.
    The Forces Awakens can't be some cheesey US daytime soap opera where the kids are 5 then 10min later they're 23. :rolleyes:

    The WMD/all is lost scene/sequence can also explain why Luke goes nutty, why Han & Leia break up & how Chewie gets hurt.
    It was mentioned before that Leia kept het connection to both Vader & Luke secret so that tidbit may cause friction in the 3rd act.
    Leia & Han(if he lives) may be mad at Luke or hate what he does until they see the reasons/cause.
     
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    Ok, here is my take on this (not that anyone asked) I think this is fan-made fiction based on speculation...

    The MvS being Plagueis starts it off, we have some confirmation that his role will be minor. The latest from MSW links Montross to the pirates.

    Gwendoline Christie – General Vos... established character... unless this is a different General Vos, which come on, would HAVE to be different than Quinlain Vos due to age.

    Referring to Ridley as Kira should raise red flags...

    Kira is on Tattooine with Luke, and Luke is the mentor, but it is the death of her parents (Han & Leia) which propels her to being Luke's pupal?

    Chewie supplants Han as co-pilot, When was Han ever the co-pilot?

    Boyega arrives in the mix simply to deliver news to Luke he already sensed...

    Film will mark the first time we see the construction of a light saber on screen (though this may have been cut from final script.) - Totally ignoring that Luke made one in RotJ, though the scene was cut.

    There is a key flashback scene towards the beginning of the film featuring the actor Domhall Gleeson, Billie Lorde, Pip Anderson and others. - So Gleeson is Luke, and Lorde is Leia... which again we have some confirmation isn't the case.

    If this is a 4th draft, post Ardnt, and not the final draft, why do we have cast members assigned already?

    The planet as a weapon thing... really... as someone pointed out, you just avoid the system and the weapon is useless.

    Come on now...
     
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