Can Ridley, Boyega & Hamill carry Ep.8

Yes they can

 

Acting will be always a matter of taste, but for me Ridley delivers far better performance than Boyega by a "less-is-more" approach.

I can't compare Padmé and Rey. Both performing actresses are G-R-E-A-T, but Ridley is playing a richer character, and she believes on her character much more than Natalie did in the prequels. Natalie Portman feels uncomfortable playing Padmé, specially during the most dramatic scenes were she needs to hide her face because she's uncapable to cry. Am I blaming Portman for that? No. Natalie did one of my fav performances in The Black Swan.There are people that fit scifi better than others. And the lag of a strong character and direction didn't help her.

ps: before naming me prequel hater: What I said of Portman and what I've said of Lucas is based on their own testimonials. Portman said SW almost ruined her career and Lucas said he hates directing actors. I hope we can keep discussing about acting rather than turning to "prequel quality" discussion, which I guess nobody cares.

 

I am perfectly content with seeing the original Star Wars characters/actors carry this new trilogy, especially Luke (Hamill), but I understand the need for new characters for the newer generation of SW fans. But, TFA without Han Solo (Ford) would have not been the same for me and I doubt anyone will disagree that Ford's presence made the movie even better. At this point, Boyega is not a great actor so I couldn't see him carrying much, plus Finn isn't really interesting to me. Ridley is new and inexperienced, but I see more potential in her and I am really looking forward to seeing Rey progress. Hamill, Ford and Fisher weren't great actors either when they started Star Wars back in 1977. All three were relatively unknown, but it worked since Star Wars was brand new. Now, there are expectations, massive expectations. Honestly, Fisher couldn't have carried SW back in the day, she had her role, but I think Luke, Han and Vader were the reasons that people stayed for more GFFA, they were it for me anyways. For this trilogy, I can see Driver, Ridley and Isaac stepping up to the plate and doing great things, but I don't want to see Luke get tossed away like Han.

 

Hamill alone can do it. Also, Ridley, Boyega and Driver were great in TFA. Why even question this? However, i think there should be less Hamill in ep8 than Ford in TFA. The torch has to be passed.

 

I don't know, because it's true?

None of the new trio turned in a performance even half as good as the original big three.

I would dare to say they were also inferior to the PT threesome of Anakin, Obi-wan, and Padme.

If for no other reason than the PT triage, as boring as they were, seemed more like genuine Star Wars characters, whereas the ST trio, were all Spaceballs II actors who wandered onto the wrong set.

 

"Now this is trolling."

 

A whole film building up to finding Luke and you want Hamill to have less screen time than Ford? No, Luke's going to be front and centre for a lot of ep.VIII. Not necessarily in terms of fighting/action scenes but he will certainly have a lot of screen time.

 

Yeah, that's exactly what I want. There was too much Han Solo in a 'Next generation' story (IMO, of course). That was a need to make the introduction of the new characters smoother and since the new characters were very well welcomed they now have to be the main carriers. And if Luke ends up being a 'ep5 Yoda' I'd be more than OK with that.

 

Yes. They won't be alone, but of course the answer is yes. I love HF/HS as much as the next SW fan, but SW was never about the mundane characters (HS, etc.), it's always been about the Force and force users (Luke, etc.)

 

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From the new actors, let's say, playing human characters, I think both Driver and Ridley deliver outstanding performances comparable to the OT quality and probably even better. Isaac can do a lot if they give him more conflict (I'm sure they will), and Boyega is a good instinctive actor which role can improve depending on the direction it takes in the new film. I think Finn is the blurriest character of them all, because we don't know if he's going to become a Jedi or not, or how he will deal with Rey now that she took the (usually lonely) Jedi way.

 

I think this is why a lot of people are so down on Finn because his role is so unclear. In a fandom that paradoxically wants the ST to do new things while simultaneously aligning the new characters with OT archetypes, Finn is a confusing element.

We have very little idea what they are going to do with him for the rest of the trilogy. Was his prominence in the marketing and story simply to cover for the Rey reveal? Is he part of a triumvirate alongside Rey and Ren or a supporting character? Is he the 'Han Solo' of the ST(this is the favourite)?

 

The real anchor in TFA is Adam Driver, without him there is no story and I would say he is easily the breakthrough performance in the film. Also I daresay, the story is more than a little a derivative and suffered from JJ's approach to the material which for me is very typical for a producer who is always a businessman first and foremost and not particularly creative. Sure all of the Star Wars movies are very derivative but the difference here is that TFA is derivative of other Star Wars movies, and that makes a tremendous difference because it feels that Abrams' was so much more concerned with getting fans to accept the new film than he was concerned with making a genuine original entry in the series and telling a good story (which I am not convinced he's capable of).

Generally speaking, I feel that the cast they rounded out is all very good and managed to transcend the material they were working with, so I have nothing but faith in them, the real question is whether or not they have a better script to work around this time and if nothing else I expect that.

 

WELL SAID! It's like you can imagine where the other characters may go. Shall we take that in a positive way? It's probably good to have a character that we don't know where it goes or what his options are. Let's see.

 

Absolutely, the mystery around Finn's role leaves a lot of potential to both delight and disappoint. Currently, Finn is a coin spinning in the air and we're all waiting to see which side lands face up.

 

Ridley, Boyega, Hamill, Isaac, Fisher, Del Toro, Dern, Christie, Gleason...I don't think we have a thing to worry about.

After the first hour of the film, I was blown away by how invested I felt in each new character's fate. I can't wait to see more of them, more Luke and Leia, and more of the characters we have yet to meet that are forthcoming in Episode VIII.

 

I would argue that it will be Ridley, Boyega, Hamill, and Adam Driver (and perhaps Oscar Isaac) who will carry the next movie. And yes, I believe that they can. As much as I loved Han in TFA (it was so nice to see Harrison invested and seemingly having fun again), I was already hooked into the movie BEFORE he shows up, because I latched onto the new characters really quickly. And I was still invested even after he exits the movie for the same reason. And while I expect Hamill to be important, and am highly looking forward to his presence, it's the new cast that most excites me moving forward. Heck I even quite liked some of the new supporting characters/actors, like Domhall Gleeson and Gwendoline Christie (for what little that she got to do).

Plus you've also got Benicio del Toro and Laura Dern now involved as well, and they're no slouches in the acting department either,

And as others have said, the new cast/characters and their interactions were one of the mot, if not the most, praised things about TFA. So unless Rian Johnson really drops the ball in this regard, I don't think that there's much to worry about right now.

 

My favorite scenes in TFA was Rey solo scavenging on Jakku. So I think without a doubt they can carry this movie. Also they are not carrying it alone, Luke freaking Skywalker is going to be lending a mechanical hand.

 

They didn't help the TFA. Which in my view was the worst Star Wars film ever made (If you even consider it a legit Star Wars film, which I don't).

JJ wasted Max "Seventh Seal" von Sydow, and did the same with Game of Throne's Gwendoline Christie.

Just because there are great actors in a movie doesn't mean their talents will be properly utilized. And by great actors, I mean Hamill, Fisher, Christie and Del Toro.

Not Ridley, Boyega, Isaac....they're all B movie grade actors who just happened to get Powerball/Willie Wonka golden ticket lucky and landed Star Wars.

But let's not get confused and start believing that because they were in TFA, and it made a ton of money, that they're A listers who are each destined to star in their own Casablanca.

Once the ST wraps up, you will never hear from any of these second tier actors again. They're all Vanilla Ice one hit wonders (except VI actually had some talent; Ridley, Boyega and Issac have zero).