SPECULATION Comparing Franchises: Wise or Unwise?

I think one of the things that sets Star Wars apart from the MCU is timing. Star Wars came out 8 years after we went to the moon. America was thinking about flying cars and robotic futures, so when Star Wars came along we saw a different future for ourselves than what we see today. Star Wars was about the possibilities. We were curious about the future. The world is different now, and I don't think we dream of living on other planets like we did back then. America is no longer thinking about that kind of future, so the movies may have lost some of it's original appeal. Lucas Films should ask themselves what made Star Wars tick. I don't know if Star Wars can go back to being the juggernaut it originally was. Disney didn't buy Star Wars because they had a story they couldn't wait to tell. They bought it because of it's built in fan base.

 

I seriously doubt it. I can barely remember the plot of the 2nd Avengers film. Basically the major draw for IW is that the audience knew some major characters would die. That's not sustainable story telling. In fact, it's been a major problem for Game of Thrones in the later seasons.

Sadly I've only seen the first half of IW. My wife became ill during the film. Turns out it was serious. Just getting out of the ICU after a week. She's recovering well... but we both thought the first half was a mess. It would be okay for TV, but bizarre narrative for a movie. Hopefully we can see the rest this weekend.

 

After re-watching the 2nd Avengers movie (when I was prepping for IW), there were several scenes in that movie that played a very crucial role for Black Panther. I get that AOU is one of the weaker marvel movies, but that movie has information that is easily missed that is related to future movies.

 

Can I post up sumthin' here ... pertainng to the Thread Topic ...

... an' Do it without gettin' any kind'a "Hate" ?

The thread Topic's "Comparing Franchises" , Right ?

No.
I Don't/Can't Do that.
Compare a sumthin' to a sumthin'else.
Doesn't matter what all it is ... Star Wars, Star Trek, Firefly, War of the Worlds ... an' On an' On ...
This here's a "Me Thing", ok ?

Why ?

Well, 'coz to me ?
They're Each their Own Thing.
And I do enjoy Each of 'em for What They Are.
They Each belong in their own place, to itself.

I don't get much into 'Marvel' ... just a 'Lil bit, so I can't much speak to it, Fer Me.

Meybe 'coz I'm ... well, OG (Original Generation) ...

Hell ! I dunno Why !
Just me.

... just tryin' to 'participate' here's all ...

 

I don't think any billion dollar movie could be as forgettable as Avatar is/was.

 

I also hope your wife a speedy recovery.

I don't think all the MCU movies are rewatchable, but the Captain America movies were done really well imo. They also tie in to key elements of the Avengers movies. A lot of the other material will be much like R1, not necessary to the viewing, but if you're enjoying the story, could be fun to watch and give some nice tidbits of information.

I think for future generations, the MCU will be to kids today what SW was to us. It's been my experience, that as much as I could rewatch the OT, my kid has next to no interest in it. I wonder how much of the legacy and longevity of these pop culture movies has to do with the timing of when you watched them. Getting caught u

 

The link below covers a great deal of what we're talking about in regards to Infinity War.
And you can make comparisons yourself with it against The Last Jedi.

Avengers Infinity War spoilers obviously:

 

Keeps referencing the MCU specifically then goes on to talk about the three actors who played Banner (two), the three actors who played Parker (one), and then talks about Days of Future Past

Some people's kids.

 

i personally don't find it worth the time and energy. maybe because like @LadyMusashi and @DailyPlunge and @NinjaRen, to me Star Wars is emotionally "special" to me whereas the MCU is mostly just disposable entertainment. it's not in the same league.

and this isn't even about quality. i wouldn't bother comparing Star Wars to Nolan's TDK trilogy either; i love both on their own merits.

in general, the need to assign movies into hierarchies is a concept i shrug at.
and all these "rating" threads are mysterious and amusing to me.

yes, i think Andrei Rublev is a brilliant film and one my favorites; but i've probably watched Ravenous far more times. XD

 

I look at these films as just 'dumb' entertainment. They're not emotionally special to me in anyway. Heck, I even like the Transformers movies. Yes, of course they make me feel things. But I'm never gonna be so outraged that I feel like I need to boycott Solo or anything like that. These films were never made in the first place to have that kind of devotion.

 

In your original post, you're talking about the MCU also known as the Marvel Cinematic Universe. Those are a specific subset of movies that fall into the same Universe rather than "all movies that have been a Marvel property." For example, the multiple incarnations of Spider-Man in film include the Tobey Maguire film series, the two movies with Andrew Garfield (Amazing Spider-Man), and Homecoming with Tom Holland. The first two series are both from Sony Pictures and therefore don't fall under the MCU banner and have nothing to do with the universe. They have the Marvel name on them from a licensing standpoint and nothing else. Homecoming however, was produced by Marvel Studios and falls within the MCU and its greater story line.

All that to be said, if you refer to the MCU and then include all Marvel movies then it's basically like you're referring to Legends material as part of Star Wars canon. Do you see the issue here?

I will give you that there have been two actors that have portrayed Bruce Banner in the MCU because The Incredible Hulk was an MCU film. I'll also give you that James Rhodes has been played by two different actors in the MCU. Beyond that there has been little that can be pointed to as not matching up in the actual Marvel Cinematic Universe.

Also all of X-Men currently belongs to Fox and shares no through line with the MCU.

 

Nope you still missed it. All that typing and it just flew by, oh well.

Edit: Also, it really doesn't matter about under Disney or not. Iron Man and The Incredible Hulk were both released before Disney acquired Marvel. The distinguishing factor is the "MCU" banner, which applies to only those movies within the shared universe and timeline. When you compare Star Wars to the MCU you need to do it under that lens otherwise you're not comparing apples to apples.

 

The only way for Marvel to show their superiority over LucasFilm, is to make a good Howard the Duck movie.













I hope y'all get the joke.