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SPOILER Could the main character actually be...

Discussion in 'Star Wars: The Force Awakens' started by Kylo Samurai, Feb 18, 2015.

  1. Kylo Samurai

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    Hi guys, what I'm about to speculate will seem completely contradictory to what we've believed and heard. But in light of recent news and rumors, I had a thought, and perhaps liked to share it with you guys.

    What if TFA is actually about Kylo Ren? What if HE is the main character, and not so much Rey or Finn? They'll still be central to the film, but what if the film's themes revolve around Kylo?

    Why do I say this? Well, just yesterday, MSW released a spoiler concerning a pivotal moment in the movie:
    Kylo Ren striking down Han Solo on the ramparts of the Evil Castle.
    Today, MSW ran an article analyzing that and speculated that Kylo is the only child of Han Solo, with Rey being totally unrelated. This was my first piece of evidence, because it pointed to the fact that if true, it would mean that Kylo Ren is the only one who has the Skywalker Legacy within him (Rey and Finn could still be Force sensitive though). Secondly, I thought back to a few weeks ago when MSW reported that "Kylo Ren is on all the packaging". Sure, this could just be a throwback to the whole "Darth Vader" type of thing on the toy boxes, but still, it makes me think; if Kylo is on everything, he must be very, very important, perhaps reaching the God-like levels that Vader reached. And that's another reason why I think that in actuality, TFA and beyond will follow Kylo Ren's journey. Just like the original saga was about the tragedy of Darth Vader, the sequel trilogy will follow the the tragedy of Kylo Ren.
     
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    What if Kylo Ren is the son of Luke and Leia, the product of a drunken mistake at the Endor celebration? He was raised to believe Han was his biological father, and much care was taken to ensure that he never discover who truly sired him. But somebody let it slip, and he was driven mad at the discovery of his incestuous origins.

    Hating Han for lying to him and for not being his true father, he kills him on the ramparts of the Evil Castle, determined to punish his mother by taking away the only man she ever loved...
     
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    I 100% believe Luke and Leia will NOT have a kid together.
     
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    Best theory I've heard in a while. I think this would be a really cool plot twist no one is expecting. The only downside to this is that Having Kylo Ren be the only Skywalker would mean that he has to eventually redeem himself to the light side which is something we've already seen Vader do in Episode VI (I don't think Disney would end the Skywalker lineage by killing him off).
     
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    That's just weird
     
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    This could very be a strong possibility. Obviously his arc will be about turning to the dark side and the evil he perpetuates. If he is from the Skywalker/Solo lineage it would make sense he is the main character. No one ever said the Skywalker link had to be a protagonist. That being said Star Wars is about good vs. evil and Rey and Finn are going to be the protagonists of this series and will still be main characters. It just may be that if a "Skywalker" is to carry forward, that character will be bad instead of good as a lot of us has speculated.
     
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    Why does he have to redeem himself? He doesn't. The ST could be about him and all his evilness and his eventual slaying. It doesn't always have to have a happy ending for the main character if he isn't on the "good side". OT aside, would you say the PT ended on a happy note for Anakin?

    If he is killed off at the end of the ST the "skywalker trilogy of trilogies" ends. That doesn't mean they cant make more SW films.
     
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    I'm saying if Kylo Ren is the last of the Skywalker lineage, then I do not think he will be killed off. Disney is going to want to make more films within the main saga past episodes 7,8, and 9. I don't see Epidosdes 10, 11, 12 continuing without the Skywalker lineage there.
     
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    But the PT was the first act. It doesn't have to end on a happy note. The OT was the middle act, ST the final act. I can't see it not ending on a happy note.
     
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    Kylo the last of the skywalkers, it makes a difference with the eu character Cade being the last of the skywalkers, there will be a skywalker in episodes 8 & 9 but I don't think it will be Kylo, he will not a skywalker or a solo.
     
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    I like the idea of Kylo Ren being the son of Solo and the main character/bad guy of the new trilogy. In TFA we’d see Kylo’s obsession with his heritage, especially Vader/Anakin. He impulsively attempts to awaken the dark side of the Force without knowing what he’s truly dealing with. He resents his father and sees him as weak; how could somebody that can't use the Force be his father? He believes he is a Skywalker, not a Solo! By the time MSW’s reveal happens Kylo is close to his goal and feels he must continue at all costs. As Kylo finally accomplishes his mission he realizes he is in way over his head. The film ends on a tragic note and shows us a side of Kylo that is afraid; afraid of the consequences of his actions and the loss and anguish he is now due to suffer because of them. As the second and third films in this trilogy play out we begin to see Kylo trying to make amends for his actions, becoming something of an anti-hero. It’d be neat if Kylo eventually redeems himself and saves another of the new generation characters from turning to the dark side themselves…
     
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    It doesn't have to end happy for Kylo Ren was my point. Disney will probably be no where near done with SW when the ST is over.
     
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    his is the greatest theory yet. What a fulfilling premise.
     
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    It's possible they won't be. But it won't be a continuation of this particular saga. I'm pretty sure Iger said this trilogy finishes this story
     
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    They can always have Gleeson be Luke's son and a bad guy. Nothing says he has to be a main character. He can always be there to make sure the Skywalker name carries on for the NEXT trilogy. Have 7-9 be about Han and Leia's kid/kids, with Luke's son as a supporting antagonist. Then jump ahead 20 to 30 years for 10-12 and Gleeson's son is the hero for that trilogy.
     
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    What the hell, man.
     
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    Woah, what makes you think this is the final act? Unless it bombs horribly (which realistically can't happen) they will keep pumping out star wars films until the day I die.
     
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    Because on numerous occasions both Lucas and Hamill have refered to the PT as the first act and the OT the middle act. This trilogy is the final act to this trilogy of trilogies.
    I'm not discounting the possibility of future films beyond the scheduled ones. I just don't see an episode X, XI, XII. I see spinoffs and a new saga not connected to this set of 9 films.
     
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    You have to remember though, that Lucas said they didn't go with his story treatments for the ST. Maybe he did originally intend for it to be the final act of these nine films, but JJ and team decided to take it in a different direction. Personally, I like the idea of the son of Han and Leia being the villain through and through. Falling so far that he is beyond the piint of redemption, beyond reconciliation and any chance of coming home again. If the rumor is true and Rey is his sister, can you really see her being able to forgive him for killing their father in cold blood? I think Kylo killing Han would be the final act he needs to fulfil his goal. Completely giving in to his hate and anger and becoming fully enveloped by the dark side. Perhaps the final trial given to him by Serkis' character? And you could continue this story with Rey and maybe her children down the road. She would after all be half Skywalker so the lineage would not be broken, just the last name of the protagonists. Which shouldn't confuse anyone unless they haven't seen the whole saga, and let's face it, that will be a smallest of small groups of the audience.
     
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    If Kylo Ren is the Skywalker scion in this trilogy via Leia, and also a Solo via Han, you get the father son dynamic, Luke fills the Obi Wan role, and Kylo Ren ends ep 9 as the fulfillment of the prophecy. He would be neither dark nor light, but represent balance in the force, setting up a future with neirther Jedi nor Sith, merely adepts of THE ONE FORCE.

    The future possibilities are endless at this point. Imagine a Force using Han who can shoot first and paste Greedo to the wall, chase women, smuggle spice, and still sacrifice himself for his friends and families or take part in a Death Star assault because it is the right thing to do.
     
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