Criticisms Of Rogue One

Hahaha I love it. The "Leroooooy Jenkins" thing is definitely how it could be looked at. It did seem that there was a large faction of the alliance that wanted to finally openly attack or on a greater scale finally pick a really big fight but other were hesitant. I could see some American revolution type thing with the internal politics and how there were many who were very hesitant and those that wanted to get it on. I would think this is pretty consistent with most revolutions not just the American one. But it did definitely force everyone's hands and I could see though how many might resent that especially if they feel they are the ones contributing more or facing the greater degree of losses. Maybe this could explain some of the fall out from after the fall of the Empire after ROTJ and the beginning of TFA. After the initial jubilation a reality would set in, old slights and political considerations would start taking over peoples points of view and things would end up sort of messy.

 

I liked the movie in some parts and disliked it in others, overall I rated it 7/10. I liked the first and the third act (third act is one of the best in star wars ever imo). But the second one seemed off, can't really explain it. I just watched the movie yesterday for the first time, maybe I'll change my mind after watching it again. I just wished there was a little bit more character development, the 2nd act seemed like it was rushing things...

 

I rate it with 5, nice visuals, but lacking in character depht and a depressing finale.

 

It sort of bugged me that, if we're not going to have a crawl, why start on space followed by a pan. It felt more like the crawl got cut off, than like a crawl didn't belong... and the Rogue One title font was awful. Why couldn't they just use the logo from the marketing?
A small gripe, considering how great the rest of the film was.

I got the impression that, while bigger, the AT-ACTs were actually weaker since they were made for transporting cargo and seemed pretty easy to bring down compared to the AT-ATs.

Vocally, Vader seemed angrier to me in the scenes with Antilles and Leia in Episode IV than he is anywhere else in the entire saga.

 

He was fighting in a close corridor, he doesn't have limb flexibility he used to.

 

They went to Jedha because they wanted to get the message Bohdi Rook gave to Saw Gerrera.

He used one hand in his fight against Luke in ESB.

 

possibly a criticism, but more of a question (in case i missed it): if Galen could send a holo blathering on about the flaw along with a personal message to Stardust, why couldn't he just have sent the plans?

 

This is an EXCELLENT observation. In TFA you did get the sense that the Rebel Alliance got back to the bureaucracy of the Republic and let yet another burgeoning threat go unchecked until it was already at the gate, tramping down the door.

 

I agree, but...the man is 85. He's not gonna sound just like he did 39 years ago. Granted, yes, Lucasfilm could probably have tinkered with it, but unlike Peter Cushing, Jones is still alive, and they probably wanted to keep things as "respectful" as possible by just appreciating the performance as he gave it.

I did feel like "prepare a boarding party" could have used another take, though. That didn't sound like Vader to me. His first scene did.

 

I may be wrong but...
1. They would have noticed if the physical data copy of the plans were gone.
2. As K2 said, the plans were MASSIVE files and would take exceptionally long times to transmit and the shield would need to be down.

 

just playing devil's advocate here.
the plans fit on a little floppy, so Galen could have made a copy regardless of the size (he had the time and access), no?

 

But then they'd know he checked out the plans and then a defecting pilot...connect the dots and they have time to fix the problem or realize there is a problem.

 

but Galen was so clever they would never find it (that's what he said). And the location of the flaw wasn't in the plans--that was in the holo. they needed the plans to locate the reactor within the Death Star. so even if the Imperials knew the Rebels had the schematic they wouldn't have know what good it would do them.

anyway, i could just keep pushing it. i don't actually care: this sort of nitpicky detail just goes out the window for me because it's Star Wars, but someone raised the question and it seemed a fair enough one.

 

Maybe Vader was running late to storm Leia's ship due to a dodgy curry earlier that day?

 

This is very true. Historians have many different accounts about the Battle of Lexington (and even the Boston Massacre).

 

I mean...you could pick apart every Star Wars move, hell, most any movie with arguments like this. At the end of the day, they have to write an exciting story that has to last 2 hours. So lets say she gets the plans at the 45 minute mark on Jeddha, well now they would have another hour and 15 minutes to kill getting the plans to Leia. It could be done, and it would have been a totally different story. I just dont think it would have been a better story.

 

OMG, this is really brilliant!!! Changes everything for me!

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One more thing I will add - I thought the Death Troopers and Shore Troopers were wasted in this movie. Neither were shown to have any special capabilities that normal stormtroopers do not have. And the Shore Troopers seem like they were barely even in the movie. At least the tank driver had a specialized function.

 

but they still looked totally boss. so i'm okay with that. hahaha

 

I personally really enjoyed the film as a fan closely following all the Canon material. However, I think this movie is needlessly confusing for casual fans. Fans like us who are following all the little details understand why the Empire wants Kyber crystals, why Galen Erso is so important to the Death Star's construction, why Jedha is important to the Jedi and so on.

Having watched the film with some other friends who were much more casual Star Wars fans, afterwards I asked them if they understood what Kyber crystals are and why the Empire wanted them and why Galen Erso was so important. They honestly didn't have a clue, they kinda knew that Erso was really smart and was important for that reason, but nothing more than that.

Stuff like that is why I think that an opening crawl would definitely be beneficial for casual fans in the audience.

To clarify, I absolutely loved the film, but I'm one of the fans who has been following and reading every bit of Canon material that they have released so far. I feel that casual fans will have a harder time with it though, and as a film that should stand on its own, that is definitely a weakness.