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SPECULATION "DJ" is Cardinal!

Discussion in 'Star Wars: The Last Jedi' started by McDiarmid, Sep 8, 2017.

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DJ as rogue First Order's outcast,former Captain Catdinal

Poll closed Jun 3, 2020.
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  2. Can't decide

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  1. Colonel_Ender

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    This is very much plausible and this is well thought through. Very interesting.
     
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    As is what I was thinking. One of the first indicators, was that It took ZERO effort to imagine the scenario...in color! :) Considering the fact that we know..or suspect that Finn and Rose have infiltrated not only what appears to be a Star Destroyer, but actual ranks in a formation...bare faced.

    Someone with some real understanding of command and control protocol had to have given them that insight...which could be anyone in their employ, but this theory could be really exciting if it pans out! :)
     
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    Agreed. Especially with the last part. I am now definitely in full support of this theory and I would too, love to see this pan out.
     
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    And we know already I think whom are going Finn and Rose search for help ...D.J.

    I have assembled another little bit of informaton, I think.
    Maz Kanata using her underground connections will help resistance to locate mysterious D.J.
     
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    Yes, which is ALSO easily imaginable...good thinking!
     
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    DJ is DJ and he's a slicer. One day his beats will be legendary:
     
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    One word, LOL.
     
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    Cardinal had to do something for a living, after Phasma kicked his ass around 9 years (I think) before TFA.

    I mean (theorizing of course) he could have earned himself reputation of "slicer", by selling knowledge about the First Order "entaglements" he had.

    Finn and Rose are going to find D.J. for his obvious reputation of the one who is able to penetrate (slice) F.O. security.
     
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  9. McDiarmid

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    Poe Dameron says:"we have a Spark that will burn down the First Order".

    So FO has an internal weakness.

    It could be only one thing:dissent within FO.Certainly ships and war machine are not FO weakness,its dissent.

    Its possibility they will try to ignite rebellion within FO.

    And DJ....very strange for a slicer and purportedly a coldhearted mercenary,to go to infiltrate FO ship himself....Sounds like a big personal agenda.

    Two New SW novels as a part of "Yourney to the Last Jedi" introduced 2 New characters.

    Amilyn Holdo(young Lea novel)
    ,and Cardinal (Phasma novel).

    Holdo is in EP VIII.

    So should be Cardinal.
     
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    I agree with the First Order dissent and Finn's story arc, but not with Cardinal. I believe he's there only for the Phasma story line.
     
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    Cardinal and Phasma are mutualy for each other tied in a story line as a mortal adversaries.Characters in a same rank.

    Phasma almost killed him once.

    But cardinal somehow survived and escaped...story-wise why did he survived and escaped in the introducing novel?)

    I think I know why.

    Because this is how Phasma dies...[​IMG]
     
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    I think it's definitely plausible, but I'm betting he's not the cardinal and just a new character. Look at that face, his lean, his slacker attitude. I'm skeptical that this guy once trained stormtroopers. What we know about del toro's character indicates he is a slicer with some sort of underworld / criminal vibe. It just doesn't seem to me like an ex-military man would end up so unkempt and loose. Also, if he was once a great soldier, how is he also the right slicer for the job? Wouldn't he be the muscle and not brains? Or is he just that badass that he's become the best slicer in the time since he's been with the FO? Doesn't seem to me like those skill sets have a lot of crossover...I also don't see the need to introduce a new character into the Finn / Phasma beef. He betrayed her, she wants him dead. It doesn't need to have more to it than that.

    That being said, this is based on nothing but my own opinion...It's quite possible this theory may be correct, and there are plenty of good reasons outlined in this thread. Good catch!
     
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    EDIT: whoops wrong thread
     
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    No spoilers for nude Last Jedi characters here please.
     
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    He is as such?
     
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    Cardinal seems very neat , clean cut, and routine oriented. DJ seems like a messy more rugged type, from the very little we know. It's possible he changed after feeling the first order let him down, and there is the time he gets drunk, doesn't shave or polish his armor and doesn't seem to care. But I think this is unlikely. DJ is also said to not clearly be on a side, but Cardinal would likely be focused on taking down phasma, not very neutral or ambiguous
     
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    I have a feeling being left for dead and realizing that the cause you fought for is a lie and having nothing left after that point would do something pretty drastic to your overall character (a la lieutenant dan in forrest gump).

    Maz could know about him, send Finn and Rose his way to contact him, only to find out he's not the person he once was, but then upon hearing Finn talk about Phasma, DJ sees how he could exact revenge.
     
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    I applaud the arrival of another new and easily disposable minor character! It's an edgy and fresh decision by the amazing writers!
     
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    I applaud the arrival of a new trolling and easily pessimistic comment on a speculation forum! It's an edgy and fresh decision made by a Star Wars fan to discredit a film that isn't even out yet.
     
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