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SPECULATION Do you think Disney should re-make the Prequels?

Discussion in 'Prequel Trilogy' started by Fizznick, Aug 30, 2015.

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Should Disney re-make the Prequel Trilogy?

  1. Yes

    23.1%
  2. No

    72.8%
  3. Keep them the same, as long as Jar-Jar isn't in it.

    4.0%
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    No argument on that point. Additionally, what so many people fail to realize about the Rotten Tomatoes score is that it's not an actual grade of the movie, but rather the percentage of critics who think it is worth seeing. A critic can think a movie is just so-so and give it a fresh rating. Additionally, a film with a 50% rating is simply divisive, that doesn't mean it's a bad movie, just that it's probably not for everyone.
    The biggest problem with Rotten Tomatoes, other than the aforementioned issues with artificially boosted scores for political/fan reasons is that most people don't really get what the scores mean in the first place. This leads to what you mentioned with films simply being assigned numbers by the less informed moviegoers.
     
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    Right. I find that they highlight the percentages of people that liked a movie over the actual scores the most misleading thing about the site.
     
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    I personally am not a big fan of thier policy to conceal the audience score.
     
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    People's failures to understand the site is not misleading on behalf of RT.
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    Which score is concealed?
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    Moral ambiguity is the bath water of the PT. It's not the concept in and of itself, but rather the poor execution of it, which stems from George's overall timidity to the concept. This only becomes prevalent in RotS; the other two movies are straight up GvB.
    Now they had a chance, a portal to real ambiguity, with Dooku and the separtist. It was part of George's original plan.. 'Helter Skelter' would proceed the rise of the Empire. But he couldn't pull the trigger on a three way struggle. He couldn't do it. So, he rolls up the separtist into this multilevel conspiracy akin to X-files and.. no, it's not necessary unless you look at the names of the separtists and realize these are all the people George hates. So they HAVE to be connected with the Sith for his own petty reasons.. just like the George Bush reference in Sith he could not resist going 'Dick Wolf' in these movies.
    Now in Sith we finally do get that moral ambiguity.. part of why it's the best Prequel movie.:) The Opera House scene is gold except for the M-word. The Gunship ride is my personal favorite. Does he go all the way, no. Does he go enough, yes.
    My problem is that even then, in the commentary, George is still trying to justify it all as GvB.:( You and I can see the moral ambiguity in that film but he can't and he made it.:mad:

    As for 'cashing in'..
    https://www.kickstarter.com/projects/1226939500/melancholy-republic-by-cloud-runner-studios

    That's Nicky Spargo's video game. That's why he made that TFA $#!&post video.. he promised his video game in January 2016.. 17 months later it still hasn't happened. So with deadlines looming he decided to 'cash in' on star wars fandom.. and managed to sucker implore ~400 angry prequel fans into 'supporting his efforts'.
    I hope they're not feeling too 'melancholy' about their lack of a 'republic'.:p
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    On the main page, friend, the main page. They make sure film snob gets an exclusive first impression.
     
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    That's ridiculous logic.
    Absolutely ridiculous to expect a site to put ALL their information on one page.

    And again, that isn't concealing. The information is there.
     
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    No, it's not, it's one extra score and they got plenty of room on their front page for it.
    And, yes, again that is concealing. This isn't some html website; there is a great deal of thought and consideration put into what they show in the css scripts on the front page. They know how many people click the main page and they know how many bother to click on to the movie pages. They also know who clicks what. And they know what your clicking from. How do you think the plurality logs into RT? Probably from a mobile device. Where are they accessing it from? Likely a vehicle. How many of those devices can quickly handle the #@&$ton of scripting RT uses on it's mobile version? The $600 dollar ones can. $200 phones need about 30 seconds.. That's about 25 too long. And your asking them them to do it twice to get an audience score. Most people ain't gonna do it.. and the people who run RT know this.
    On the print side of things, we have a term for this: above the fold. And we have a corresponding term for what RT does: bury the story. It means the news the MSM doesn't want to show the masses is printed on page 4. Conversely, what you want to dictate conversation goes above the fold, or in RTs case, the front page.
    So, no, your argument does not fly. This has been a tradecraft tactic of concealment known to information peddlers for generations.
    "See, I printed the story about the CIA connections to Viktor Poreschenko! It's right there, in that small corner on page 7, just below the half-page lingerie ad! I'm not concealing anything!"
     
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    Your argument of concealment is based on asking people to click once.
    Jesus.
     
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    Which many, many people will not do. That's how lazy most people are. They don't want to click twice. Just like they don't want to flip a page.
    Speaking of laziness it would take, maybe.. 5 minutes of hard coding to get the audience scores on the front page. Just saying..
     
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    Then that is their problem, not the websites.

    The fresh/rotten score is based on critics. Not fans.
    They want their fresh/rotten to be the most noticeable thing.

    They put box office and fresh/rotten. The two most important things for their brand.
     
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    It's also simplifying the variety of types of scores that the hundreds of critics use. 3,4,5 stars, or out of 10, or other types of ratings can produce an 'average' that can be pretty ambiguous. Saying that 'a large percentage of critics liked it' is cleverly reflected by the tomato score, and perfectly simple for the internetzzzzz
     
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    Well have fun watching Ghostbusters then.
    Certified fresh!!
    Seriously what are you butthurt about! I just a suggestion, chill out!
    Jesus! This thread ain't even about RT.
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    No, you said they concealed things. They don't.

    I'm not the one butt hurt. You are the one crying because Rotten Tomatoes asks that you click more than once for ALL the data.

    And you went straight for the strawman so who is really butt hurt?

    --- Double Post Merged, May 24, 2017 ---
    And simple works.
     
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    Oh, so you're admitting your a troll then?
    My mistake. I thought you actually wanted to have a conversation. Well, ghostbuster, it's been about ten hours of you either trolling or venting your butthurt over me calling your waifu RT a two timin skank. Either way that's been enough of you.

    Ignored.
     
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    Remaking the prequels is a ridiculously bad idea. Although I'm no fan of the prequels, remaking them would add further confusion and division into the already fractured mess of the Star Wars stories. A definate 'no' from me.
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    I agree. May be the first time in a a long time, but I agree. Might as well march into Jeddah with a t shirt from the Death Star Gift Shop.
     
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    What on god's green earth are you talking about?

    You are the one who made it personal.
    You are the one who presented a strawman.
     
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    RT is a site for aggregate critics opinion. I visit it to see what the professionals think about a movie. For audience scores IMDB is better as there are usually more voters there. Plus, audience scores are very unreliable nowadays on pretty much every mainstream review site, especially with blockbusters. Thousands of 10/10 and 1/10 votes distort the scores.

    I personally rather tend to agree with the critics more often than with the GA though.
     
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    ...............
    Will one of the Moderators please change the title of this thread to "Let's Hijack a Prequel Thread to Argue about Rotten Tomatoes"
    Make sure you put the "humor" prefix on because this thread is already a joke.
     
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    AMEN Sister!
    New trilogies sure. Something between current trilogies, OK. But dont redo a Dang BLASTED thing. Every ewok and gungan are precious and a part of this fantastic and troubled galaxy.
     
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