SPECULATION Does Dark Side necessarily mean Sith and vice-versa?

For sure. Maybe they will make Plagueis be one if he is in the movie.
The first pic looks like Max von Sydow a little bit... if he is Plagueis that could work.
@Joe12Hawk

 

The Jedi see themselves as tools of the force, it's reversed. It's that contrast that makes this conflict worth while. If a Jedi wields the force as a tool we call them dark Jedi. They aren't Sith (yet) but they dangerously close. It has happened a lot during the early galactic history, mostly when the Sith Empire was around.

The whole idea of a Jedi being a tool of the force is a real philosophical debate. The Jedi are supposed to be selfless, and only care about others while serving the will of the force. But what if the will of the force is to allow the "others" to be destroyed? what then? Do the Jedi really let that happen because it's the will of the force? Often times when the Jedi intervene, it's due to the Sith being at the center of the conflict. We also learned in the prequels that the Jedi rely heavily on their foresight to make decisions because it's how the force communicates it's will to them. But the darkside can cloud everything, so the Jedi lose sight of what the will of the force is so they begin to act on instinct and make assumptions about the will of the force which is dangerous because a wrong decision sends them spiraling down the dark path.

Luke choosing NOT to fight the emperor in RotJ was him relying on the will of the force like a true Jedi would. The Jedi do not fear death because they know in death they become one with the force. If it were the will of the force, he would have been destroyed but it wasn't. It was the will of the force that the Jedi Order be destroyed by the Sith and the Sith destroy each other leaving one Jedi to serve the force. According to the prophecy this brings balance to the force... but how is that balance if only one remains on the scale of light and none on the side of dark? how is that a balanced ratio, 1:0? Unless of course, Darth Plagueis is in fact alive... leaving a 1:1 ratio at the end of RotJ. And as we all know, balance doesn't equate to eternal peace. Logically for the story, a sole agent of the darkside has to survive in order to balance out the light (Luke) at the end of RotJ, fulfilling the prophecy of the prequels.

 

But the Jedi thought the Sith to be extinct.
How can you balance something if in theory it's already ballanced.

 

If that's the case the whole "chosen one" thing is retarded.... fail on Lucas for bringing that up.

 

What you're implying isn't actually balance, it's single dominate, 1 Jedi 0 Sith, That's not balance. Good can't exist without evil and vice versa.

 

Right but that's what the Jedi were speaking of in the PT.

 

The Sith race isn't canon, so it may or may not exist. However, sticking with the Legends material, the Dark Jedi were exiled and they ended up on the home planet of the Sith race. They basically became the rulers of that race, which led to them being referred to as Lords of the Sith.

 

Right, which is why yoda pointed out the fact the prophecy may have been misinterpreted.

 

Then what did it mean?!
It is a mystery!

 

Well I'm hopeful VII can answer! lol

 

That would be a good bit of info!

 

I feel like VII is going to plug a lot of the holes in the PT that TCW couldn't and maybe Rebels can plug a few too.

 

Isn't Star Wars The Old Republic still canon? Either way I thought the sith race was touched upon in the movies just not explored.

 

Somewhere someone said they never considered it non-canon. I think it was when they released some update for the game.

 

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This horse has been mowed into the ground for three months.
The FORCE is balanced. The Jedi have no "points" in that. ie: 1-0
The Sith cause an imbalance because they do not coexist with the FORCE.
Balanced = Jedi only
Imbalanced = Sith at all

 

The Jedi don't coexist with the force either because they only serve the lightside, just as the Sith only use the dark. Which is why both the order and the Sith were destroyed. The original force scholars on Tython used both the light and darkside of the force equally which created balance in the force. Which would mean in order for the prophecy to be true, Luke would have to be a gray Jedi that used both sides of the force equally. If he solely walks the path of a Jedi, the force will never regain balance and the prophecy will remain unfulfilled.