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Domnhall Gleeson Says Hux Was "Written For Laughs" In Ep8,Hopes Hux Will Be Comedic In Ep9

Discussion in 'Star Wars: The Last Jedi' started by ObiWanKnowsMe, Mar 18, 2018.

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    re: Han

    Isn't there a line where Leia says "Han was...well, Han about it"
    Doesn't sound like an arc to me

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    It was Luke who said it. You can no longer consider yourself to be a SW fan. :p
     
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    THEY'RE TWINS.
    It's basically the same thing.
     
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    maybe that says more about Luke than it does about Han. XD
    of course Han was Han.
    his essential stubbornness never changed, but ultimate acceptance of the Force and sacrifice for his son speaks greater volumes.

    and again, the point is nuance, right?
    Han wasn't going to be a completely different person; he was just going to demonstrate that little bit of grace.
     
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    It was the worst change from TFA/TLJ, Hux changes from a serious guy yo a Adam Sandler style for unknown reason.
     
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    That makes sense. And I know this may be a bit off topic, but I think it's interesting how each of the OT three is essentially an aged version of themselves, but tempered by experiences with Ben Solo.

    Contrary to the "happily ever after" we kinda got with Legends, Han and Leia's marriage falls apart in this canon. Han becomes a smuggler again, basically the same guy we met at the beginning of ANH. And honestly, as sad as this was, I actually loved it. Very mature creative decision, in my opinion. It would've been way too easy to keep Leia and Han together, or to have them seperated but bring them back together. But regardless, as much as this is like the ANH Han, he has progressed. This time he's wiser, and is more attached to those he loves (particularly Ben).

    Leia is still the snappy military leader, but again, there's this sadness in her now due to Ben's betrayal.

    And Luke most of all- you can see the shades of the man who went on adventures in the Original Trilogy. They're definitely there! Look at the scenes where he interacts with OT characters like Artoo, Leia, and 3P0, and it's very clear that Luke is the same Luke he's always been. But he's been so changed and hurt by Ben's betrayal that his external personality is very different.

    Anyway, sorry to get off topic, but I think it's such a good point- in well over 30 years, so much can change, but even here it's pretty easy to trace the dots to see how these characters got to where they are. "That Wasn't Luke" just doesn't hold any water.

    And, like I mentioned in an earlier post, we can also see these changes in the differences between the First Order and the Empire. Taking this idea further: there has been some discussion on the possibility of a Civil War in the First Order. I do wonder if the battle lines drawn could be between Hux's more traditionally First Order psychopathic "over the top" villains, and Kylo Ren's more reserved Imperial inspired allies.
     
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    Funny side note: In the German version Luke's says: "As always Han had a bad feeling about this." So the German version actually has the famous line: "I have a bad feeling about this."

    But go on with the discussion. Haha!
     
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    Hux's speech is TFA isn't really menacing. It's kind of comical. He's a rabid cur. As Kylo tells him that his troops are skilled at high treason. This idea that Hux changes dramatically doesn't add up.
     
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    It is so over the top and melodramatic.
    Like a good faux space Nazi should be, over the top and melodramatic.
     
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    i think it's more about the way Gleeson plays it.

    in TFA he was insecure and overcompensating and we see all the cracks in that Starkiller speech, but for the most part, he kept his cool and pretended to have everything under control at all times.

    in TLJ, the veneer is just gone. all we see are the cracks.

    Johnson specifically made this as a choice to distinguish him from Ren and Snoke.
    i still think it was a choice that didn't need making ~ hahahaha

    sorry i don't have a source for this and ye gads i'm lazy tonight. i'm assuming it's in the interview?

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    And in the next film we see a progression in the character. Had they gone the serious route it would have seriously changed the final act of the film. I understand if people don't like the choice. That's a matter of opinion of course, but it the progression doesn't feel out of character. Hux's part in TFA simply isn't big enough for him to be a complete character.
     
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    i don't disagree with this at all. and i think Hux will surprise us in TLJ.
    and i think part of why he'll surprise us is because people are writing him off.

    i don't like what Johnson did with him and i don't think it was necessary to drag him down so far.
    but again, i'm not too worried about it; Hux'll rise in IX and hopefully Abrams will make him terrifying.
     
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    Just laughed imagining Grand Admiral Thrawn depicted as dragged on the floor, slapped in his face, beaten by rebels, choked for no reason and slapped again in Star Wars Rebels.

    I'm quite sure fans would have find it brilliant.

    Can't wait for Hux's red nose and spiky hairs in ep IX.
     
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    Thrawn is a well known character with a fleshed out personality. Hux on the other hand is not. So this comparison doesn't really make sense.
     
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    That's clearly Thrawn's logical character progression!! :D
     
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    Oh you know, sometimes you have surprises.

    Luke Skywalker was a well known character too ...
     
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    If you're making silly comparisons you might as well keep changing the subject.
     
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    Still is.
     
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    You are making strange statements that legends characters are "well known" and that current characters are not that "well known".

    What are we talking about ?
     
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    I don't think "casual fans" know who Thrawn is or even aware he exists.
     
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