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SPECULATION Echoes upon echoes: Addressing the "problems" with The Last Jedi

Discussion in 'Star Wars: The Last Jedi' started by Grand Admiral Kraum, Dec 20, 2017.

  1. Fearghas_Ajax

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    Exactly... the momentum created by the release within the bomber is what keeps them going the proper direction. The fact that the ships have unexplained artificial gravity is just part of the space fantasy genre!
     
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    Luke was the son of the Chosen One, so it sort of explained his "Gary Stue-ness". Rey turned out to be a "nobody", which is why her "Mary Sue-ness" still needs to be explained.
     
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    We wanted a good movie.

    As to the Bomber discussion, I thought that by now, it was common knowledge that a lot of Star Wars battle scenes are patterned after World War II combat and combatants. The Ball Turret on the MF, to the Stormtroopers name, to the Imperial uniforms, to the dog fights, all leveraged heavily from WWII. The Bombers are just an extension of that. A silly extension all things considered? Yes. It is a delivery system that is impossibly archaic considering the surrounding technology. Gravity assist bombs in space? It is a close to a bridge too far.
     
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    But there is gravity within the bomber, where the bombs are. Let go of anything within a Star Wars-ship and it will fall.
     
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    I never made the case that there wasn't gravity on the ships or that the bombs couldn't fall; I agree with the Physics you're describing. I was just pointing out how amusing it was that during Rian's purge of all things traditional, in the end he relied on World War II parallels from the OT that seem woefully out of place.

    Gravity assist bombs? For people who have developed hyperdrive and devastating projectile munitions? LOL, I mean Rian if ever there was a place to diverge from the traditional this was it.
     
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    The problem is that in the movies she is. I understand that reading the SW books and playing the SW games give you additional informations and expand upon already existing characters and plots. But I really need to see these ideas at least ins ome basic form in the movies too. Most people are never going to read a movie, their idea of who Rey is i solely based on the movies and rightly so. They cannot rely on additional media to do most of the flesh out of a movie character. One example of how unsatisfing this is would be Phasma. So yeah, We should already have seen Rey struggle a lot, not only in the books but also ons creen. I like her concept of being a nobody but on screen she is surely treated like a chosen one.
     
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    Am I the only one that sees that Rey is the new Chosen One? They will never use that term for fear of backlash from Prequel haters. But if you take all the evidence into account, she's been chosen and made extremely powerful by the force.

    The Force Awakens was about her. "There has been an awakening, have you felt it?" So powerful that Kylo and Snoke felt it. Luke didn't because he put the force on mute.

    The Skywalker Saber called to her. We've never seen an object call to anyone like this. It chose Rey.

    The force chose the one person in the galaxy with no attachments and a pure unselfish heart.

    The force made sure she ended up with Han, Luke and Leia. The most powerful force family in the GFFA.

    The force chose someone with the discipline to teach herself to fly, to scavenge/repair things, to learn to fight to protect herself, and ultimately survive a harsh environment on her own.

    When the grandson of the Chosen One decided to go to the dark, the light found an equal to return balance. The light chose Rey.
     
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